Why does Soul/Spirit come here to forget?

[Moonglow]

Hello,

A couriosity has been buzzing around my mind for quite some time.

Why doe Soul/Spirit come here to forget it's Union and then when leaving here to remember again.

Let me expand upon this.

It has come to me through the years that the Soul creates a contract with other Souls. This has been confirmed to me when my mother passed away as well as other loved ones.

Through the years have come across that "we" (in general) are here to learn.
With in the spiritual aspect are here to remember our union and to develop.

The courious part for me is that Soul/Spirit is eternal and formless in and of itself. That it already knows of its connection with Source/Giod/omnipresence.
Yet it seems to choose to come here, manifest as this physical being, human being. Some may even say other physical forms/beings as well.

Which brings to my mind an interesting pondering, why? Meaning in regards to Soul/Spirit.

I will leave my thoughts right now with these reflections.

This is for discussion sake, thank you.

1. To experience - to create and experience that creation
2. To learn
3. To put into practice what one knows, to set up a challenge
4. To love and be loved

Just some ideas


jl

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by Moonglow

Hello,

A couriosity has been buzzing around my mind for quite some time.

Why does Soul/Spirit come here to forget it's Union and then when leaving here to remember again.

Is that what you believe happens?

Let me expand upon this.

It has come to me through the years that the Soul creates a contract with other Souls. This has been confirmed to me when my mother passed away as well as other loved ones.

Contracts are what we use in this world. Relationships and arrangements are what obtain in the etheric.

Through the years have come across that "we" (in general) are here to learn. With in the spiritual aspect are here to remember our union and to develop.

I think broadly that's how I see things - we learn from experiences in this dimension. I don't follow, though, what you meant in the final sentence.

The courious part for me is that Soul/Spirit is eternal and formless in and of itself. That it already knows of its connection with Source/Giod/omnipresence. Yet it seems to choose to come here, manifest as this physical being, human being. Some may even say other physical forms/beings as well.

Which brings to my mind an interesting pondering, why? Meaning in regards to Soul/Spirit.

One reason may be to experience the apparent separation from source/God we experience when we incarnate into this world. (and perhaps others) But many other experiences can not be experienced as discarnates - it's to experience those too that we come here. Another experience that we can not experience in our discarnate form is that of procreation, becoming a parent. Children and parenthood can be experienced in the physical but not in the etheric. It's at least partly to have such experiences that we come to live on earth.

I will leave my thoughts right now with these reflections.
This is for discussion sake, thank you.

In return I hope I've provided a few of my own ideas for you to consider.

[inavalan]

Originally Posted by Moonglow

Hello,

A couriosity has been buzzing around my mind for quite some time.

Why doe Soul/Spirit come here to forget it's Union and then when leaving here to remember again.

Let me expand upon this.

It has come to me through the years that the Soul creates a contract with other Souls. This has been confirmed to me when my mother passed away as well as other loved ones.

Through the years have come across that "we" (in general) are here to learn.
With in the spiritual aspect are here to remember our union and to develop.

The courious part for me is that Soul/Spirit is eternal and formless in and of itself. That it already knows of its connection with Source/Giod/omnipresence.
Yet it seems to choose to come here, manifest as this physical being, human being. Some may even say other physical forms/beings as well.

Which brings to my mind an interesting pondering, why? Meaning in regards to Soul/Spirit.

I will leave my thoughts right now with these reflections.

This is for discussion sake, thank you.

Your conscious here isn't the soul, but a projection (a temporary focus) of the soul. It is similar to your dream self, who isn't aware of you who are sleeping.

Why? Mostly because of the way you were hypnotized through education to believe, and forgot how to use some of your innate capabilities. Nobody did it on purpose. It was just ignorance, which led humanity astray.

If you want to get answers to such questions, put aside all your current beliefs and expectations (like the ones you stated in your post), then get in touch with your inner source of knowledge and guidance through prayer, meditation, self-hypnosis, ... Ask your questions and you'll get answers. Be careful not to distort those answers with your interpretations.

Here's how think of it. In a nutshell it's the only way It can experience Itself and that's through expressing Itself. In and of Itself It's infinite and undifferentiated potentiality. Call it Unmanifest, Ineffable, Unchanging.

So It manifests Itself as the effable, the changing, the temporal, all being finite names, forms and usages of Itself. Evolution and involution on the macro and micro scale.

Here's an interesting take. Infinite Silence (Unmanifest, Unchanging) and Infinite Dynamism (manifest, changing).

https://youtu.be/RJ4Uv-5_3VM?list=PL...zzdrQA&t=44 4

[Moonglow]

Originally Posted by janielee

1. To experience - to create and experience that creation
2. To learn
3. To put into practice what one knows, to set up a challenge
4. To love and be loved

Just some ideas


jl

Hi janielee,

I like your ideas/reflections.

Suppose as an Ethreal being can not experience what is experienced here in the physical.

The beauty and love that can be experienced here may very well bring to mind the connections.

Yes, there are challenges and these in thier ways has brought further wisdom and understanding.

Just some ideas/reflections on my part.

Thank you

[Moonglow]

Originally Posted by bobjob

Is that what you believe happens?



Contracts are what we use in this world. Relationships and arrangements are what obtain in the etheric.



I think broadly that's how I see things - we learn from experiences in this dimension. I don't follow, though, what you meant in the final sentence.



One reason may be to experience the apparent separation from source/God we experience when we incarnate into this world. (and perhaps others) But many other experiences can not be experienced as discarnates - it's to experience those too that we come here. Another experience that we can not experience in our discarnate form is that of procreation, becoming a parent. Children and parenthood can be experienced in the physical but not in the etheric. It's at least partly to have such experiences that we come to live on earth.



In return I hope I've provided a few of my own ideas for you to consider.

Hi bobjob,

the couriosity that came to mind was sparked by reflecting upon what I have come across at times through the years.

Does Spirit/Soul forget in its fullness? Would venture to say no if all becomes entwined with in consciousness.

Yet, incarnating/taking form seems to become individualized and through this upon a self basis seems forgets. Perhaps so that what is experienced and reasons being here are better focused upon. Just a thought.

Could an arraingment be a form of a contract/agreement?
When my mother passed, a few years ago, heard loud and clear with my mind "contract complete". Heard of soul contracts, but really gave it little thought. Been told when others I knew passed, again just thought "interesting". My mothers passing confirmed it.

Yes,feel arraingment and relationship seem better ways to look at this.

Upon the spiritual may not forget when Ethreal, but upon incarnating to this physical aspect the union with spirit seems to be forgotten in a way. So the couriosity arose because are "we" (in general) ever really seperate from Soul/Spirit? Personally don't feel "we" are.

Cool view that Soul/Spirit wants to have a physical experience. To be able to touch, smell, taste, see, and travel. Perhaps that is some of reason to just experience creation. I like this view and seems to resonate.

Thank you. Given me views to consider.

[Moonglow]

Originally Posted by inavalan

Your conscious here isn't the soul, but a projection (a temporary focus) of the soul. It is similar to your dream self, who isn't aware of you who are sleeping.

Why? Mostly because of the way you were hypnotized through education to believe, and forgot how to use some of your innate capabilities. Nobody did it on purpose. It was just ignorance, which led humanity astray.

If you want to get answers to such questions, put aside all your current beliefs and expectations (like the ones you stated in your post), then get in touch with your inner source of knowledge and guidance through prayer, meditation, self-hypnosis, ... Ask your questions and you'll get answers. Be careful not to distort those answers with your interpretations.

Hi inavalan,

To share what I get from what you share.

We are a "projection" of Soul? If similar to being a dream self, wouldn't Soul be aware of this? Find this an interesting analogy.

I feel we as humans are programmed, so to speak, in many ways through just being here upon this physical plane. And where we are placed to live and experience.
Agree not necessarily on purpose, just part of life here, would venture to add.

Thank you for the consideration and advice to ask my inner guide.

Originally Posted by Moonglow

Hi inavalan,

To share what I get from what you share.

We are a "projection" of Soul? If similar to being a dream self, wouldn't Soul be aware of this? Find this an interesting analogy.

I feel we as humans are programmed, so to speak, in many ways through just being here upon this physical plane. Here we are placed to live and experience.
Agree not necessarily on purpose, just part of life here, would venture to add.

Thank you for the consideration and advice to ask my inner guide.

Find it an interesting couriosity.

Carrying the dream analogy one step further, have you ever had a lucid dream? Where upon gaining lucidity within the dream one realizes one is not the dream body but the dreamer, in effect being the entire dream and more.

That's my model for Realization.

[Moonglow]

Originally Posted by JustASimpleGuy

Here's how think of it. In a nutshell it's the only way It can experience Itself and that's through expressing Itself. In and of Itself It's infinite and undifferentiated potentiality. Call it Unmanifest, Ineffable, Unchanging.

So It manifests Itself as the effable, the changing, the temporal, all being finite names, forms and usages of Itself. Evolution and involution on the macro and micro scale.

Here's an interesting take. Infinite Silence (Unmanifest, Unchanging) and Infinite Dynamism (manifest, changing).

https://youtu.be/RJ4Uv-5_3VM?list=PL...zzdrQA&t=44 4

Hi Just A Simple Guy,

First skimmed over the video, a lot to take in for me at the moment. View it more later. Seems fascinating. Science and Spirituality are not that far apart.
Learn as we go along.

Do you think the energy that gives rise to formation is Spirit/Soul or what is termed as such?

It experiences itself through expressing seems whst "we" do as well. Yes the micro reflecting the macro.

Perhaps a clue into the act of creation.

Thank you for sharing.