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Old 01-11-2020, 08:09 PM
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The self/I is not ego-mind. The ego-mind is not the sense of I/self.

The ego-mind uses language, concepts, metaphors, analogies and other worldly things as tools or instruments to describe, experience, express and to get to know the self/itself/god (or whatever you want to call god), the physical universe and everything in the universe, which includes other ego-minds describing, experiencing, expressing and getting to know the self/itself/god (or whatever you want to call god), the physical universe and everything in the universe.

The self is the physical manifestation/form of god or whatever you want to call god, thus god and the self are one!
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Old 01-11-2020, 10:59 PM
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The ego-mind uses language, concepts, metaphors, analogies and other worldly things as tools or instruments to describe, experience, express and to get to know the self/itself/god (or whatever you want to call god), the physical universe and everything in the universe, which includes other ego-minds describing, experiencing, expressing and getting to know the self/itself/god (or whatever you want to call god), the physical universe and everything in the universe.

The self is the physical manifestation/form of god or whatever you want to call god, thus god and the self are one!

sort of. one still has to open up to the self in order for it to be experienced.
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Old 02-11-2020, 02:04 AM
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sort of. one still has to open up to the self in order for it to be experienced.
Yes, one has to open up to the self, and one has to be honest with one's self.
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Old 02-11-2020, 10:18 PM
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How do you, would you differentiate the 2
-egoic mind and self?

Reminds me of Wayne Dyer talking about the Lower ego self - and the Higher ego self.
I love certain people - I know who they are...and their stupid ego is not them, nor
what I love about them. Their 'essence', their true self is what I love and know.
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Old 03-11-2020, 01:26 AM
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How do you, would you differentiate the 2
-egoic mind and self?

Reminds me of Wayne Dyer talking about the Lower ego self - and the Higher ego self.
I love certain people - I know who they are...and their stupid ego is not them, nor
what I love about them. Their 'essence', their true self is what I love and know.
The self is the heart feeling of I/I am in the present moment and the self uses ego-mind as a tool/instrument to use language, concepts, metaphors, analogies and other worldly things to describe, experience, express and to get to know itself/god (or whatever you call god) in physical form. God/oneness/wholeness/non-duality/ultimate and absolute reality, literally speaking, not figuratively speaking is the NOW/present moment. Everything that takes place both in the physical universe and in the spirit(ual) world, takes place in the same exact NOW/present moment, thus the physical universe and the spirit(ual) world are one and the same.
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Old 05-11-2020, 01:55 AM
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The self is the heart feeling of I/I am in the present moment and the self uses ego-mind as a tool/instrument to use language, concepts, metaphors, analogies and other worldly things to describe, experience, express and to get to know itself/god (or whatever you call god) in physical form. God/oneness/wholeness/non-duality/ultimate and absolute reality, literally speaking, not figuratively speaking is the NOW/present moment. Everything that takes place both in the physical universe and in the spirit(ual) world, takes place in the same exact NOW/present moment, thus the physical universe and the spirit(ual) world are one and the same.

i wouldn't personally think of it as now or present thing. if one is open enough the mind can not obstruct bliss and silence.
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Old 05-11-2020, 08:38 AM
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i wouldn't personally think of it as now or present thing. if one is open enough the mind can not obstruct bliss and silence.
The NOW/present moment is the bliss/silence you are talking about when the ego is not describing, expressing or getting to know self, the self's surroundings/environment, the physical universe and everything in the physical universe.

We obstruct bliss and silence when we are in the past or future, either consciously or unconsciously and when we are not living in the NOW/present moment. When one is living in the NOW/present moment, one is just conscious/aware of everything, without having any (ego/memory based) thoughts or thinking. Silence and bliss is not about not thinking at all, silence is about not having any thoughts, thinking, beliefs etc based on memories of the past. Silence allows a person to live and to think more inuitively, sharply and clearly. Bliss is an effect of having the experience of living inuitively, sharply and clearly, and silence is the cause.
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The NOW/present moment is the bliss/silence you are talking about when the ego is not describing, expressing or getting to know self, the self's surroundings/environment, the physical universe and everything in the physical universe.

We obstruct bliss and silence when we are in the past or future, either consciously or unconsciously and when we are not living in the NOW/present moment. When one is living in the NOW/present moment, one is just conscious/aware of everything, without having any (ego/memory based) thoughts or thinking. Silence and bliss is not about not thinking at all, silence is about not having any thoughts, thinking, beliefs etc based on memories of the past. Silence allows a person to live and to think more inuitively, sharply and clearly. Bliss is an effect of having the experience of living inuitively, sharply and clearly, and silence is the cause.

im obstructed by nothing. its just a matter of opening up more and deepening the phenomena.
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Whats wrong with being human, why do we have to seperate ourselves off into all these labels, and then disown them to call ourselfs spiritual lol, esp when if we agree all is energy, then we have plenty o time to experience the rest in the here after lol
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Whats wrong with being human, why do we have to seperate ourselves off into all these labels, and then disown them to call ourselfs spiritual lol, esp when if we agree all is energy, then we have plenty o time to experience the rest in the here after lol
Nothing is wrong with being human and nothing is wrong with describing, expressing and getting to know self/oneness/wholeness/the NOW-the present moment aka god or whatever you want to call god. In fact, that is why we are right here, right NOW!

Edit: The point is to be an individual, yet not be separate at the same time!
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