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Old 26-06-2020, 11:25 AM
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My Own I Am.

I realise now - in my 50's - that the whole I Am thing is where my life went wrong. I chickened out of I Am and settled for 'we are' and 'God is'. This did not work. Everybody needs their own 'I Am' and now I need mine.

So it is a matter of knuckling down and generating my own sense of I Am. This is often what happens with psychoanalysis and psychotherapy. But I cannot afford an analyst and so I am on my own. It is a bit scary at times. But I feel I will prevail.
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Old 26-06-2020, 11:42 AM
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I realise now - in my 50's - that the whole I Am thing is where my life went wrong. I chickened out of I Am and settled for 'we are' and 'God is'. This did not work. Everybody needs their own 'I Am' and now I need mine.

So it is a matter of knuckling down and generating my own sense of I Am. This is often what happens with psychoanalysis and psychotherapy. But I cannot afford an analyst and so I am on my own. It is a bit scary at times. But I feel I will prevail.
Awwwww....please don't be afraid ... Your moment of being you.. your being of "I Am" is always with you. Sending love x
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Old 26-06-2020, 12:08 PM
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Honza, you are, you always were and always will be, get used to it.
Don't over-complicate things.
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Old 26-06-2020, 08:44 PM
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So it is a matter of knuckling down and generating my own sense of I Am. This is often what happens with psychoanalysis and psychotherapy. But I cannot afford an analyst and so I am on my own. It is a bit scary at times. But I feel I will prevail.
Hidy-Ho, Honza



You might find what Joseph Campbell has said and written in this regard informative and inspiring. Here's a tidbit:

https://billmoyers.com/content/ep-1-...venture-audio/

Lots more on YouTube -

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Old 27-06-2020, 11:58 AM
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I worry so much about being God. It is a very new concept for me.
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Old 27-06-2020, 04:32 PM
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I worry so much about being God. It is a very new concept for me.
Hey H -

What is it that 'worries' you? What are you 'afraid' of?
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Old 28-06-2020, 05:23 AM
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What is it that 'worries' you? What are you 'afraid' of?

Hi davidsun,

It is a form of existentialism. The 'unbearable lightness of being'.....

Existence is tough. It is scary. If I call myself God then will I make it worse?
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Old 28-06-2020, 01:03 PM
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Hi davidsun,

It is a form of existentialism. The 'unbearable lightness of being'.....
Is an 'encounter' with the issues spelled out in this [quoted from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightness_(philosophy)] - what you are referencing:
"Kundera uses Friedrich Nietzsche's doctrine of the Eternal Return to illustrate Lightness. Eternal Return dictates that all things in existence recur over and over again for all eternity. This is to say that human history is a preset circle without progress, the same events arising perpetually and doomed never to alter or to improve. Existence is thus weighty because it stands fixed in an infinite cycle. This weightiness is “the heaviest of burdens”, for “if every second of our lives recurs an infinite number of times, we are nailed to eternity as Jesus Christ was nailed to the cross.” At the same time, it is necessary for any event to occur in the cycle of events exactly as it has always occurred for the cycle to be identical; consequently, everything takes on an eternally fixed meaning. This fact prevents one from believing things to be fleeting and worthless.

The inverse of this concept is Kundera's “unbearable lightness of being.” Assuming that eternal return were impossible, humankind would experience an “absolute absence of burden,” and this would “[cause] man to be lighter than air” in his lack of weight of meaning. Something which does not forever recur has its brief existence, and, once it is complete, the universe goes on existing, utterly indifferent to the completed phenomenon. “Life which disappears once and for all, which does not return” writes Kundera, is “without weight...and whether it was horrible, beautiful, or sublime...means nothing.” Each life is insignificant; every decision does not matter. Since decisions do not matter, they are "light": they do not tie us down. However, at the same time, the insignificance of our decisions - our lives, or being - is unbearable. Hence, "the unbearable lightness of being." On the other hand, eternal existence would demand of us strict adherence to prescripted rules and laws; a sense of duty and rigorous morality.
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Existence is tough.
Are you personally having rough-tough situational experiences? Or does this statement relate to what you see/know others are going through?

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It is scary. If I call myself God then will I make it worse?
Can you be more specific? How might (?) you then make it 'worse'? And how/why is such possible worsening 'scary' to you? It would help me to relate to you if I had a better idea of what your life-journey is like.


If you would rather keep things in the above regard 'private' or if things get balled up here because others 'bounce off their walls' (which may(?) 'happen' in response you sharing your emotional 'trip') feel free to continue this conversation with me via P.M.s
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Old 28-06-2020, 07:01 AM
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You have to stop following others' ideas, and discover the reality on your own. It is the best way.
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Old 28-06-2020, 07:12 AM
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Other people's ideas are a part of my own reality. I have learnt so much from 'out there'...
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