I'm pure & perfect consciousness. Wow.

[God-Like]

Originally Posted by kralaro

God-Like,
While listening to Swami Sarvapriyananda's logics i felt that i've no free-will, he hadn't stated that yet but i still felt (or thought) that, i don't remember how. Then it was confirmed by teachings of Ramakrishna & Krishna that i've no free-will.
Swami Sarvapriyananda also said we're not our minds, i agreed with him. For me it's apparent that i'm not my mind.

It's a misconception to state that I am solely the mind or my clothes in the first instance.

Unity or oneness means that I AM everything from one perspective, it's not about dividing what you are up into little bits and pieces .

Some teachers say you are not your thoughts and you can observe your thoughts but this is equally a misconception ..

You can't for examples sake have a thought and distance yourself from thinking while observing what was thought of .

Your thoughts about pure consciousness doesn't come out of thin air and is something that is thought of as being something that one is ..

Prior to knowing what consciousness refers too and what purity is, you would never of come up with the notion .


x daz x

[ajay00]

Originally Posted by God-Like

Some teachers say you are not your thoughts and you can observe your thoughts but this is equally a misconception ..

You can't for examples sake have a thought and distance yourself from thinking while observing what was thought of .

When you are observing the thought process as a witness, incessant thinking and emoting would obviously slow down.

A conscious person can stop at will to observe his or her thought process, though this would be difficult for an unconscious mind who is under the grip of compulsive thinking and emoting.

[God-Like]

Originally Posted by ajay00

When you are observing the thought process as a witness, incessant thinking and emoting would obviously slow down.

A conscious person can stop at will to observe his or her thought process, though this would be difficult for an unconscious mind who is under the grip of compulsive thinking and emoting.

This reflects there being a difference in someway between the so called witness and the one that has a thought .

You can't watch your thoughts and be in someway separated by the witness of them .

You are the thinker, you are the witness . What you are, witnesses and thinks. There is no one and the other .


x daz x

[ajay00]

Originally Posted by God-Like

This reflects there being a difference in someway between the so called witness and the one that has a thought .

The difference is between the Self and the ego or false self. The false self is just a habitual thought process. The thinker and thought are considered to be the same.

The Self is just thoughtless, pure awareness or Being.

Originally Posted by God-Like

You can't watch your thoughts and be in someway separated by the witness of them .

The Self is the witness , whether there is a thought process or not.

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[God-Like]

Originally Posted by ajay00

The difference is between the Self and the ego or false self. The false self is just a habitual thought process. The thinker and thought are considered to be the same.

The Self is just thoughtless, pure awareness or Being.

There is only Self . Why do you prise apart what you are from what you are . The Self isn't something beyond the thought of it .

The Self cannot witness itself from beyond the thought of itself .

The Self that you speak about is not restricted to beyondness, it is here and now. It is typing this post .

There is no false self vs the Self .

There is no false self that thinks and a real Self that doesn't .

Where do you get your understandings from?


x daz x

[ajay00]

Originally Posted by God-Like

There is only Self . Why do you prise apart what you are from what you are . The Self isn't something beyond the thought of it .

The Self cannot witness itself from beyond the thought of itself .

It appears that you have mistaken the thought/mind for the Self. The Self is not a thought or mental conception which has a beginning and an end. It is subtler than the mind which is just a conglomerate of thoughts.

That which cannot be apprehended by the mind, but by which, they say, the mind is apprehended—That alone know as Brahman and not that which people here worship. ~ Kena Upanishad

Due to the subtlety of the Self, most people identify instead with the grosser mind or thought process. This eventually results in suffering due to the fickle and impermanent nature of thought and desires. This is why the mind/ego is considered as the false self in Vedanta.

In meditation or thoughtless awareness, the false self/mind/ego or compulsive thought process is transcended to attain Self-awareness (Sat-chit-ananda).

Since bliss and peace are the charecterestics of the true Self, this is the reason why people feel the same in meditation.

[Still_Waters]

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Originally Posted by kralaro

Now i don't hate anybody since all bodies are robots being controlled by God.

Thanks to Swami Sarvapriyananda's youtube videos and thanks to many others.

I have gone to Swami Sarvapriyanda's lectures in person at the Vedanta Society in NYC and I don't recall him ever saying that "all bodies are robots". However, I think I understand what you are trying to say. I'm glad that you have found some comfort in Advaita.