Ego.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Fatemahx

It is to hate in others because you have this in yourself but you have not accepted it in you.

We can agree to differ on this I personally do not 'hate' anybody, but I do sometimes dislike their actions. For example.....
I dislike Murderers and Rapists actions but not because I see a Murderer or Rapist in myself....

[Joe Mc]

@Gem,. The word Ego means 'I' in Latin and Greek. In Pali, the word for 'I' is
Atta hence the word Anatta which is non-self. As you know yourself, Anatta is probably the main teaching of the Buddha.
Yes Freud conceptualised the word and used it as an umbrella term to denote a system. Namaste.

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[Gem]

Originally Posted by Joe Mc

Anatta

What did the monk say when he realised anatta?
"Where'd 'e go?"

[weareunity]

Hello all.

Looking through the lens of why and how, it is possible to understand the behaviour of the egotist as saying:---

I have a need to be noticed.

Cheers. X.

[Joe Mc]

Originally Posted by Gem

What did the monk say when he realised anatta?
"Where'd 'e go?"

Buddhist protesters the otherday were heard shouting, "What do we want ?
Mindfulness !!! When do we want it ? Now !!! "

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[Redchic12]

Totally agree with Gem #69.

That was the exact point I was trying to make.

Nothing is black and white in this world imo

[Maisy]

Originally Posted by Fatemahx

Ego hates what is it has not accepted yet.

That reminds me of jealously. Like not liking somebody because they are happy and you're miserable.

The one saying that kind of rang true to me was you can never get mad at somebody unless you want something from them. For example, you want them to agree with you and they don't, you want them to not do something they did or are doing. Seems like if you think about it, if you are mad at someone you can trace it back to something you want from them.

I know about repressed or displaced anger theory. That's where if somebody made you angry or treated you really bad and you can't (or didn't) express it to them, because of something like they are your boss or parent or something, then that anger will come out at others who really don't deserve it. Sometimes years later. This all happens subconsciously and you don't know you are doing it.

I think we are not really the ego. I think we carry it around though.

[Maisy]

Originally Posted by Gem

but I also understand that ethics aren't exactly black and white.

Seems like sharing is something not all learn or are interested in. Stealing, yea that's a hard one as far as what's right and wrong. If you think about it, if I make an item for $1.00 and sell it for $100 isn't that a form of stealing? But our whole world is based on that idea. I just read some designer purse that sells for $5,000 costs $14 to make. The root of all the trouble is money I bet. Money is the root of all evil they say. It takes money to live, to eat, to have shelter and some have a hard time getting it so what do they do? Well sometimes steal.

I've heard some that steal justify it by saying, "well they are rich." Why do some have more than anyone needs and others have none? Philosophy and religions and others all have their own answers to those questions. When I look at people I know seems to me it is karma. Some people can't catch a break and others have an easy path.

[Goldcup7]

This might sound controversial and dangerous, but imo nothing is truly owned, so nothing can be stolen. Imo that is an undeniable but overlooked truth. Ownership is created by human society, with some good reason. But the highest advanced society would recognise that items are not owned. Admittedly, humanity is far from that yet, so rules are needed.

Who owns the endless earth from which objects are made? One may make a bunch of flowers from their garden and claim it as theirs to sell. But the ownership of the garden, the seeds and the flowers is only in the human mind. It is just the planet flowing.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by Maisy

When I look at people I know seems to me it is karma. Some people can't catch a break and others have an easy path.

I think generally speaking, if you have to justify something you do, it's probably not the most moral action, but in some cases, doing the wrong thing or a harmful thing is justified and is still the best option. If we really had an ideal utopia, this would be cut and dried, but in worldly reality we have to take the good with the bad.

You can go to places like an ashram and practice extreme generosity in service, but the regular world isn't like that, so you have to be discerning. If you are in worse circumstances with takers and users, you can't be too generous because they'll just use you up, so I think depending on your circumstances, you try to be your best. Under some conditions you could be much more trusting and giving, whereas other conditions demand a more protective attitude.