Ego.

[Goldcup7]

Whose thoughts, actions and circumstances?

[sky]

Originally Posted by Goldcup7

Whose thoughts, actions and circumstances?

Ours
We are the cause and fortunately the solution....

[Goldcup7]

Who knows the ego? That's the big question.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Goldcup7

Who knows the ego? That's the big question.

The question is only 'big' if you make it so

[Goldcup7]

If who makes it so? No, we'd better stop this here. Lol

[sky]

Originally Posted by Goldcup7

If who makes it so?

The thinker who thought

[OldChap]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

As I cross the street to avoid a smelly, messy trash area ---is it reflective of something in me?
I think we all have preferences...if we have an aversion of someone's ego...we are just preferring not to be around it.
I believe it is wise to drift away from those people.

Hi Miss H., nice analogy!

But would we need to avoid the smelly trash area if what we smell is not a foul odor?

Could we observe and not react negatively to other people's ego?

While our ego does push us to do nasty things, nonetheless it does serve the beautiful singular purpose of keeping us out of danger and to stay alive to have our human adventure here in this vibratory unfamiliar place by instilling in us fear, worry, anger, selfishness, hoarding, judgement, hierarchy, and superiority.

Perhaps think of it this way, if a man rudely bumps into you and then passively swears at you in his native language which you are not at all familiar with, then you would most likely walk on by without judging and getting angry at him.

The other scenario would be you angrily questioning how dare he swore at me when he was the one who bumped into me.

The lives of Saints and "enlightened" people are not all rosy as they too will cross path with naughty people, but they don't react negatively or judge. Because they understand they too were once at that earlier point of less wisdom and benevolent maturity, and so they will have more understanding and greater compassion for the naughty people.

A long way of saying, yes every single action we do is reflective of our inner state.

Brave souls are the light workers as they have a passion to uphold light in places of darkness. It is why many are born into dysfunctional families. No point to being born into loving families.

Let our innate, rather than our human mind, guide us whether to walk away or walk along the smelly trash area. If the odor is too overwhelming and we have done our best, we could walk away and let one of our other teammates with a less sensitive nose give it a try.

All the best!

[sky]

Originally Posted by OldChap

The lives of Saints and "enlightened" people are not all rosy as they too will cross path with naughty people, but they don't react negatively or judge.

We can agree to differ I have a distant Relative who was Canonized after being Hung drawn and quarted for His judgement/negative reactions etc: . Jesus also judged others and reacted negatively to their actions....
We can judge without being judgemental, we can judge out of kindness....

[OldChap]

Originally Posted by sky

We can agree to differ I have a distant Relative who was Canonized after being Hung drawn and quarted for His judgement/negative reactions etc: . Jesus also judged others and reacted negatively to their actions....
We can judge without being judgemental, we can judge out of kindness....

Hi Sky,

Agree, no need to argue but a civil discussion is nice! Sharing of ideas.

Could we kill without killing?

Could we judge without judging?

One of Jesus's greatest teachings is judge not lest ye be judged.

When we can't see the bigger picture yet to understand why things are unfolding the way they are, it would be inappropriate for us to make judgement on others.

It would be like a three year old child who is still counting with his fingers to judge the PhD mathematician that his answer to an elaborate equation is wrong.

As we move further along the spiritual path to love, our earlier judgments on others will turn to compassion for others from having been at that earlier point of less awareness, less wisdom, and less benevolent maturity.

Those who now are strongly against wars and killing had in this or past lifetimes being in wars and killed others.

Those who now despises scammers and deceivers had in this or past lifetimes scammed and deceived others.

Those who now wholeheartedly embrace God had in this or past lifetimes mocked and dismissed God.

All part of our human spiritual evolution to become wiser with more benevolent maturity.

And love will always unite, never divides.

Love is much more than just simply a beautiful human emotion.

Love alters our body's chemistry and physics to have a new benevolent mindset of greater caring, understanding, kindness, compassion, tolerance, honesty, integrity, and cooperation. All courtesy of us being more connected with our soul that is a part of God.

Then could Jesus, imbued with pure love or what some call higher DNA efficiency, react negatively and judge others?

Jesus, like many spiritually advance and connected human messengers here throughout the ages, never wrote any of his teachings for preservation. His disciples and others did, none of whom were connected nor had high DNA efficiency that is more pure love.

It then is natural and expected that those writers would inject their personal biases when putting the teachings of Jesus into words.

The writers indeed had a difficult task, that is to understand Jesus's wonderful teachings of pure love and compassion that were in color when they could only see in black and white.

Pure love that can only be unconditional love.

Because conditional love is not love, but rather it is a form of deceit and manipulation to gain control, over others.

There is no judgement nor negative reaction in pure love.

All the best!

[sky]

Originally Posted by OldChap

Hi Sky,

Could we judge without judging?

One of Jesus's greatest teachings is judge not lest ye be judged.

Yes Jesus did say the above but continued to judge others , according to Scripture
Christian Culture is steeped in centuries of judgmental habits and still is, imo.
Judging is and always has been essential in society otherwise we would have mass murderers, rapists, thieves and terrorist running amok. There's a time and place for everything, sometimes people are wrongly judged and thats why it's very important to be wise and not let the ego get in the way by non-judgemental judging.