Saami People of Norway, Finland and Sweden and Joiking

[eezi-ulgen]

Originally Posted by sentient

Then again, I have met ‘indigenous’ people who can walk into a Sacred site on the landscape and remain clueless, noticing nothing - which in turn makes me wonder who they actually are or rather which “reality orientation” were they brought up/conditioned in since our modern Western reality orientation considers “Bob” as Bob and not as an energy field. And not just Bob, but Bob with labels and attributes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMDt...el=HansWilhelm

Nice vid.
Bob with labels while all his manifested energy comes out of the absolute...
It's funny how we can build our labels/identity and play our labels we've assigned ourselves and get totally caught up in them...

I heard something funny last summer...My friend went to his first Sundance...
They had a sign with 10 rules to uphold and #10 on the list was:
"Just because you attend a Sundance does not make you a Medicine Man"...

We still joke about rule 10 it's funny...But then it's not...

There can be just as much if not more building of the Spiritual ego...I run into it all the time...
Also guilty of it myself...Ha Ha...
Lets Pray "Bob" does not become a new age healer, but then who am I to say what "Bob" should or shouldn't experience...
...Peace...

[sentient]

Originally Posted by eezi-ulgen

Nice vid.
Bob with labels while all his manifested energy comes out of the absolute...

Yeah, not a bad video …
The other video which I linked to that post by Mr. Lipton tells the same story.
Mr. Lipton also goes on and on and on about “subconscious programming” in his other videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L-a....Lipton%2CPh.D.

In short – he reckons that a child from 2-7 years of age is in Theta brainwave state which he equates with hypnosis and this according to him this is how a child “downloads” his/her “subconscious program”.
I agree with him to a point, but have called this program “reality orientation”, which I also go on and on and on about.
Yet, even though he then speaks about changing the subconscious program – I only see him changing it in the way of the old program …..

Around 3-4 years of age – since I lived in my grandparent’s house – it became very clear to me that my grandparents came from 2 very different sets of programs.
Been learning some new terms: “the Local and the Non-local Consciousness” - so I am not entirely sure I am using and associating these terms correctly here.

However, my Western “white” grandfather was on the “Bob with labels program” and could NOT for the life of him let go of his “local consciousness” and join/tune into the “non-local consciousness”. That possibility did not exist for him.
My grandmother in turn - coming from the old more primitive hunter-gatherer, tribal program could NOT for the life of her be or become a separate self “Bobette” identity & I think it is partly because - being tribal, one is a collective (awareness space) identity first and foremost. One is just an individualized reflection of the whole, an individual ray of that collective.

In that awareness space of the collective - unconditional love, belonging already IS, it is ‘given’ – whereas the Bob-program thinks he must first learn to generate ‘unconditional love’ to express it and then expects to be rewarded medals for this – (his) ‘goodness’.
But this is the "clown act" from the collective space perspective ... fake as ...
And if one (separate from the collective space) needs to personally generate unconditional love, then it means it isn’t (already) there – innit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7Gt...GautamSachdeva

[sentient]

Local & Non-Local Consciousness

Snippets from the net:

Non-local consciousness has shown that consciousness exists independently of the brain and after death, based on numerous NDE studies demonstrate this fact.

Your consciousness is not in your head …
Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking for the announcer inside the radio.

It is possible to have an unlimited and nonlocal spacious awareness, which is spontaneous, holistic, and ever-fresh. It is unaffected by the body, mind, and space events and experiences.

Space Inside, Space Outside: the Non-Locality of Mind

Be the Space:
https://scienceandnonduality.com/article/be-the-space/

*

If consciousness were non-local, then an individual ought to be able to perceive information beyond the reach of the brain, body, and senses. For example, one might be able to gain information about a person, place, or object at a distant location.

The last paragraph is very ‘shamanic’.
Me thinks “Axis Mundi” was taught to navigate “Non-local Consciousness.”
Maybe it bears some similarity to Sundance?

Have never been taught healing but.