I AM THE WAY....

Originally Posted by sky123

Oh dear me, thankfully I don't know any Father's like that. So if we turn our back on God we go to Hell.....

Where is ' Hell ' ?

watch the world news sometime! actually don't its horrible. where is hell? depends who you ask. nobody can know for sure as we can't go there and visit and find out. you can't buy a ticket to hell. one messes up big time and that's where they find themselves. nobody chooses to go to hell. they choose to be evil and hell is the result

Originally Posted by BigJohn

Fancy a Mother who praises her eldest child for burning down another building.

Would you think it is right for the Mother to constantly condone that child's behaviour? And would society go along with that kind of thinking?

ABSOLUTELY NOT! I could see burning down one building maybe, but not another one. Heathens and heretics on the other hand, a good kid can burn down as many of those as they please. Can even roast hot dogs, make smores, and sing Christian songs while they are doing it.

Oh.....just thinking about it makes me nostalgic for Bible camp, and I never even went.

Originally Posted by BigJohn

Fancy a Mother who praises her eldest child for burning down another building.

Would you think it is right for the Mother to constantly condone that child's behaviour? And would society go along with that kind of thinking?

it could be people want a god who lets them do whatever they want with no consequences because they have a guilty conscious about what they are doing
even santa claus keeps a naughty and nice list

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by sky123

What are you talking about , your on the wrong page

If you reread what you wrote, it looks like you are condoning wrong behaviour. It seems like you were trying to say God should love the ones with 'wrong behaviour' as much as he should love those who are doing what he wants them to do.

Originally Posted by ketzer

ABSOLUTELY NOT! I could see burning down one building maybe, but not another one. Heathens and heretics on the other hand, a good kid can burn down as many of those as they please. Can even roast hot dogs, make smores, and sing Christian songs while they are doing it.

pay off the law enforcement chain of command, yea you can get away with anything. that's why we need a god. now if god can be bought, yea then we have problems. we need a system where no matter how much one games the system, you simply can't go somewhere unless you are truly deserving, imagine heaven if anybody could be there. or even all people! it would not be heaven anymore. at least not for the good loving kind people. one bad kid ruins an entire classroom. ask a teacher. think god will let one bad person ruin heaven? no way! that person is headed somewhere else

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by AbodhiSky

it could be people want a god who lets them do whatever they want with no consequences because they have a guilty conscious about what they are doing
even santa claus keeps a naughty and nice list

I suspect that is what this is all about..... people wanting a God/god that condones 'bad behaviour'.

[sky]

Originally Posted by ketzer

Boy you just don't pay attention do you! Hell is where children light cats on fire (even kittens in the lower realms) and throw babies off the roof while other children shoot at them out of the window on the way down.
You will know it right off if you come across it. You can't miss it, it's quite a distinct place.

Did you flunk out of Sunday school or what? Who doesn't know this! There is even a video game out.
I am on level four.

Oh no now I'm really scared, it doesn't sound like a fun place, I like a good laugh
I won't be putting my name down to go there, definitely not. Do you think St Peter would let me off if someone else puts my name down ....

Originally Posted by sky123

Ego is a very valuable tool when used properly.

nobody uses ego
ego uses you
one in ego has no freedom or free will

that's bibical actually!

[sky]

Originally Posted by ketzer

ABSOLUTELY NOT! I could see burning down one building maybe, but not another one. Heathens and heretics on the other hand, a good kid can burn down as many of those as they please. Can even roast hot dogs, make smores, and sing Christian songs while they are doing it.

Oh.....just thinking about it makes me nostalgic for Bible camp, and I never even went.

Bible Camp

[neil]

Originally Posted by sky123

Exactly
Fancy a Father just loving those Children who obey, no definitely not.

It is not about God only loving those that obey.

Quote....
obey
/ə(ʊ)ˈbeɪ/
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verb
submit to the authority of (someone) or comply with (a law).
Unquote.

"COMPLY WITH A LAW"...laws of LOVE are in place/in play/in motion etc, within the spiritual universe.

God does not have to be anywhere in particular, within the spiritual universe, in order for his LOVE to reach any one person in particular.

His laws that are in play "act" for him. This is why & how, when any one individual has a truthful desire for God's devine LOVE to transform the individual, gods LOVE flows instantly.
And the divine spiritual essence will keep flowing untill the truthful desire within the individual ceases.

God loves all of his creation equally. though, those that follow his way of love to the letter..."OBEY"...with a desire to be transformed into the very essence of his self. Then his Holy Spirit'ual essence will instantly flow into that fervent desirous individual, to either start, or continue to transform that desirous individual into the very essence of his self.

And here it should be said, that the transformation does not happen instantly, AND also, after the person has been transformed, the "love/Holy spirit'ual essence" does not stop flowing. No, it only ramps up.

Those that obey, and that have a desire to be his children, do activate the holy spirit.

And it has been said, that the "holy spirit" IS a conduit for the Christ entities love.

And if any one singular individual, so chooses to not be a part of the family of the Holy Kingdom, then the Holy spirit'ual essence will not flow into that one singular individual.
Though the non desirous individual is still equally loved by the almighty Christ entity.
And the almighty Christ entity will have a desire for that one singular individual to have a realisation, to become a part of his Holy Kingdom AND family.