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Old 05-01-2022, 09:36 AM
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We are human spirits borne out of the radiation of the Divine.

We can never be God, and to think this way serves only to hinder your own progress and understanding of this Creation.

Be careful of these self-serving thoughts, and know that their origin is not of the true Light.
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Old 05-01-2022, 11:23 AM
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'Does it not say "You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below"'?

Yes it does but .....God forbade the worship of statues, but he did not forbid the Religious use of them, He actually commanded their use in Religious contexts....

Exodus 25:18-20 NIV

18 And make two cherubim out of hammered gold at the ends of the cover. 19 Make one cherub on one end and the second cherub on the other; make the cherubim of one piece with the cover, at the two ends.
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Old 05-01-2022, 11:31 AM
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Neither one proves anything and certainly do not contradict a single thing of the scripture I cited.
Jesus teaches he has a God--- his followers believe him over dogma. His real teachers teach exactly what he taught. God told all--This is my son the beloved in whom i am well pleased-LISTEN TO HIM.. Those not believing him are not his.
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Old 05-01-2022, 07:02 PM
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The orthodox church has an amazing iconography even on the inner walls of the church, when I look at those amazing paintings it is like I am moved internally. For example, my family and close family have a ton of icons but we do not worship them, they are ways to remember of God and all of those who throughout history were part of the church. We used to have the famous Last Supper, it was actually a huge carpet that was placed on the walls.

I understand @sky why people feel the need to have these objects, firstly, it starts like this, they need a way to connect with God from without but later on down the road a times comes ( maybe not even in this life ) when one looks within for God. At least that's how I see it...
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Old 05-01-2022, 07:29 PM
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The orthodox church has an amazing iconography even on the inner walls of the church, when I look at those amazing paintings it is like I am moved internally

I agree with the external and internal you mentioned.
I have a beautiful Russian Orthodox Icon given as a gift from a Russian Sailor many years ago. It is a tiny (1 inch ) oil painting on a block of wood, very old. When I look at it I think of the gift from God given to the Painter, do I worship it... no.
My Mum had a house full of Statues and Her Holy Pictures she would use them to visualize the Person behind them but never as articles of worship.
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Old 05-01-2022, 10:20 PM
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Old 05-01-2022, 10:31 PM
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Perhaps the main reason why most people do not call themselves God .... This is certainly the case with me. I often cower with fear at the thought of being God.

Well, if one believes in Jesus, one can believe they are.
The Bible has something to say about presumption though.

We're in this evolved, mortal framework, true?

Anyone going around claiming to be The Almighty will have many looking at them as if they are in need of meds.
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Old 05-01-2022, 10:37 PM
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Jesus teaches he has a God--- his followers believe him over dogma. His real teachers teach exactly what he taught. God told all--This is my son the beloved in whom i am well pleased-LISTEN TO HIM.. Those not believing him are not his.

The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

~> Spirit, KJW.
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Old 05-01-2022, 11:00 PM
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...Anyone going around claiming to be The Almighty will have many
looking at them as if they are in need of meds.
Or perhaps saying, ''Oh yeah, show us...''
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Old 06-01-2022, 07:36 AM
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"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
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Words of an expanded consciousness, you need not religion/spirituality to reach such a level of understanding for the human condition. We are all human beings
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