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Old 26-11-2019, 03:37 PM
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The National Spiritualist Association of Churches, based in Lily Dale, New York does not provide proof there is no reincarnation but ask people to prove there is a reincarnation. It is interesting to note that the Hydesville, New York property was purchased and owned by them. The Hydesville property is claimed where modern day Spiritualism began.

The National Spiritualist Association of Churches claim the other Spiritualist groups broke away from their organization.

Lily Dale is considered the largest Spiritualist Camp whereas Camp Chesterfield is considered the second largest camp.
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Old 27-11-2019, 03:18 AM
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Hydesdale, New York is where modern day Spiritualism began. Most claim it began with the Fox Sisters.
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Old 27-11-2019, 03:21 AM
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Well,this spiritualist has an open mind about reincarnation.I must be a spiritist spiritualist,but did it ever come to your mind that she might have been wrong?Whatever her position is ,did she have proof? after all at the end of the day no one REALLY knows.
The Bible spoke about reincarnation until Emperor Constantine got his hands on it and changed it to suit his needs.
I have read virtually every writing Constantine wrote. What people normally say about him is not supported in his writings.

Do you have a source that shows exactly what scriptures were changed?
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Old 27-11-2019, 08:03 AM
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I have read virtually every writing Constantine wrote. What people normally say about him is not supported in his writings.

Do you have a source that shows exactly what scriptures were changed?

You do a lot of reading.Share with us some things he wrote.
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Old 27-11-2019, 08:43 AM
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As for proof for Constantine,search the web,it'll tell you.One off hand is a video posted by hans Wilhelm on you tube about the subject,there are more.
The woman could be the Queen of Sheba for all i care.What gives her the right to say that she knows all.This is what gives spirituality a bad name.I know what I believe and no charlaton is going to tell me different.
Now if you don't mind,I am a busy man and have work to do.Goodbye!
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Old 04-12-2019, 05:47 AM
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Those reading this probably will consider themselves a Spiritualist but I suspect they really are Spiritist.

Please discuss.

It doesn't matter really. What you choose to call yourself or call another person is a personal preference me thinks. I think it's entirely possible to believe in both philosophies. Maybe there is another word for some one with divergent ideas?
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Old 04-12-2019, 05:47 AM
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Those reading this probably will consider themselves a Spiritualist but I suspect they really are Spiritist.

Please discuss.

It doesn't matter really. What you choose to call yourself or call another person is a personal preference me thinks. I think it's entirely possible to believe in both philosophies. Maybe there is another word for some one with divergent ideas?
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Thanks Big John, I had not heard the term Spiritist before, so I've learnt something today.
I think labels are too conscriptive and restrictive...I like the freedom to think and feel and believe what I want, the freedom to grow and change my mind and position so I'm not keen on trying to fit everything in tidy compartments. It's such a human thing to do though isn't it? We do it to ourselves for our own comfort levels...strange hey...
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Old 04-05-2020, 12:18 PM
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Thanks Big John, I had not heard the term Spiritist before, so I've learnt something today.
I think labels are too conscriptive and restrictive...I like the freedom to think and feel and believe what I want, the freedom to grow and change my mind and position so I'm not keen on trying to fit everything in tidy compartments. It's such a human thing to do though isn't it? We do it to ourselves for our own comfort levels...strange hey...

try this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvBd0ARo6Zs


Please remember that although you may consider labels restrictive or prescriptive they're a big help for those who don't fully understand what/who someone is and does.....

In other ways the reality is that you are what you are and labels only restrict your ability to move freely if you allow them to.
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Old 04-05-2020, 12:26 PM
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It doesn't matter really. What you choose to call yourself or call another person is a personal preference me thinks. I think it's entirely possible to believe in both philosophies. Maybe there is another word for some one with divergent ideas?

There's no need to believe in either philosophy because each provides evidence of what's taught there. Neither does one have to accept every component of either philosophy to consider oneself as either a Spiritist or a Spiritualist. Neither philosophy is prescriptive.
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