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Old 08-11-2023, 07:29 PM
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Can anyone tell me who these 3 goddess are?

Can anyone tell me who these three triple goddesses are? Are they related to the Hecate sisters or a different triple goddess? I’ve attached a photo, Thanks
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Old 09-11-2023, 12:50 AM
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Using Google's image search shows they are called The Three Bethen:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beten

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beten_(Mythologie))
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Old 09-11-2023, 11:23 AM
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Thank you for providing these links, I have been doing some digging as there names changed over the years unsure why? To cover up maybe but here is what I found-

The image is from 1620 CE. According to local lore, it depicts three noble virgins who never married and gave all their money to church as a donation in order to enable the building of the chapel. The chapel was built and the image of the three women, who are known today as ‘the three sacred virgins’, was put inside in rememberance of their noble deed. Their names are inscribed as ‘AINPET, GBERPET, FIRPET’. Since there is a castle adjacent, one could think of three unmarried noblewomen devoting their lives to god and their money to the church, hoping for a good afterlife in paradise.
But there is something wrong with the chapel’s foundation legend. Local historians have checked it and found not a single piece of evidence confirming its truth. The three virgins were apparently neither born nor did they die. And in the church registers, which have survived into our times safe and sound, the donation at Leutstetten does not shine up.
And this makes very good sense! Because Ainpet, Gberpet and Firpet never lived as humans. Nor are they Christian saints. They are pagan goddesses, deeply rooted in the pre-Christian European past. Pagan goddesses in a Catholic church?

I have been trying to understand why three? Bethen are personifications of Sun, Moon and Earth, expressing the triad of heaven, earth and underworld. Or Bethen represent the three stages in the fertility cycle of a woman. White is the state of the maiden, red (blood) is the state when a woman is able to have children, while black is the state of the old woman beyond her fertility, they wear black, red and white,
white – becoming, waxing – sunrise
red – fertility, being in full blood – midday
black – waning, going down, being at home – nightfall

The Three Marys
In medieval paintings, there are sometimes depictions of three women standing together in a group who are known as ‘the three Marys’. They are known from the New Testament (Matthew 27, 56 Mark 15, 40 John 19, 25) as Mary Magdalene, sister of Lazarus and Martha, Mary, the wife of Kleophas and Mary, the wife of Salomas.
While Mary Magdalene is known from the gospels as redeemed sinner, the other two Marys are legendary, i.e. only known from non-biblical legends, where they are said to be half-sisters of Mary, the mother of Jesus.
The three Marys are widely unknown, even to practising Catholics, and if they ever had a cult of their own, its meaning has been lost. There is no visible connection to the Bethen, or is there?
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Old 27-11-2023, 09:02 PM
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A lot of the pagan belief system was adopted by the catholic church as a way to entice the pagans to convert.
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Old 27-11-2023, 09:33 PM
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They are: Einbet(h), Warbet(h) and Wilbet(h) .

Einbet(h) and her variants are: Ainbeth, Ainpeta, Einbede, Ambet, Ambede, Embede, Aubet among others

Warbet(h) and her variants are: Gwerbeth, Worbeth, Warbede, Barbeth, Borbede, Wolbeth and others

Wilbet(h) and her variants are: Willebede, Vilbeth, Wilbede, Fürbeth, Firpet, Cubet and others
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Always there are three: Maiden, Mother, and Crone. The symbolism goes back to 3rd century BC at the very least.
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Old 09-01-2024, 01:43 PM
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This seems relevant:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matres_and_Matronae
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Always there are three: Maiden, Mother, and Crone. The symbolism goes back to 3rd century BC at the very least.


I recently discovered that the Maiden, Mother Crone trifecta may have been a recent-ish invention. Scholars can't really find a reference from before it was written about in The White Goddess by Robert Graves in 1948.

Even though the number 3 is a sacred number in celtic mythology and we know the Morrigan and Hecate may have consisted of 3 entities. None of the lore suggest a maiden, mother, crone archetype..

Or so current research suggests.

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