Angry at "Spiritual Lessons"

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by hazada guess

May I just say that you planned all of the major aspects of your life before you
were born so I can say that everything happens for a reason.

That's what I have learned.

[Matty]

Originally Posted by lemex

Each person realizes or enlightened in their own time.

Flowery words isn't a realization and far from Enlightenment.
So far all I have read is blame the victim tactics.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Matty

So far all I have read is blame the victim tactics.

Well, I blame no one! Every single, solitary thing that has ever happened
to me this life has been because of ME! The good, the bad and the ugly.
Even, the stranger that hit my car and vanished from the parking lot once, no 2 times.
Not one thing ever happens that I have not created.

[iamthat]

Originally Posted by Matty

Flowery words isn't a realization and far from Enlightenment.
So far all I have read is blame the victim tactics.

This presumes that there is a victim, an innocent person who experiences bad things through no fault of their own. This seems a very limited approach to understanding the human experience.

Saying that people are responsible for whatever they experience is not blaming the victim. It is an acknowledgement that there are no victims, that we are each the creator of our own circumstances, even if these circumstances are very unpleasant.

Those who think in terms of victims and perpetrators may consider the world to be a very unfair place. When we accept full responsibility for all our circumstances then we also accept that the world is indeed a fair and balanced environment for growth. It also removes the idea that we are powerless and helpless. If we create our own circumstances then we have the power to make different choices and create different circumstances.

Peace

[Altair]

There was a time when loads of women and babies would die during or after childbirth. So did that ''lesson'' got out of fashion or can we just accept that the natural explanation (we got better health care now) will suffice?

[iamthat]

Originally Posted by Altair

There was a time when loads of women and babies would die during or after childbirth. So did that ''lesson'' got out of fashion or can we just accept that the natural explanation (we got better health care now) will suffice?

Humanity evolves, things change. Once upon a time people might have been trampled on by a mammoth or eaten by a sabre-toothed tiger. Now they get hit by the No. 37 bus.

But going back to women and babies and early mortality, perhaps the question is why did certain women and children die and not others? Maybe everyone involved had different lessons to learn from dying or surviving.

Peace

[Altair]

Originally Posted by iamthat

But going back to women and babies and early mortality, perhaps the question is why did certain women and children die and not others? Maybe everyone involved had different lessons to learn from dying or surviving.Peace

Differences in hygiene, diet, support, etc.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by iamthat

This presumes that there is a victim...

Saying that people are responsible for whatever they experience is not blaming the victim.
It is an acknowledgement that there are no victims, that we are each the creator of our own circumstances, even if these circumstances are very unpleasant.

Thank you!