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12-09-2022, 01:14 PM
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Considerations 149
The Electrical Panel
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One of the prime features the higher teachings promote is to work your way up and beyond the Lower Psychic Worlds and into the pure Home of Soul on the 5th Plane
then profoundly learn of the Living Force of Divine Spirit
learn your responsibility to IT as Soul Itself to LIFE
and then serve
LIFE. This is doable and within reach of any who are willing to put forth the discipline and effort necessary. Sets of teachings are currently available to the public
which is not always the case
as the teachings of higher Truth are often pushed underground and unavailable to the masses. The greater spiritual teachers are not fond of being killed for Their promotion of LIFE. Many sets of teachings spend their entire available existence underground
offered only via internal approaches of inner work or dreams.
Very little
if any
of the above is available to anyone unless and until they have gained proficiency in dealing with the problems and issues of the Lower Psychic Worlds. The schoolroom is what it is
and again
it is so designed
because it works. One learns
whether they wish to or not
most often spaced out over hundreds of thousands of lifetimes. Even this rather simple tidbit of information is negated by many conventional sets of teachings who promote that we are in this for one lifetime only
and then we are off to wherever they believe the afterlife is
if it takes place at all. Just the acceptance of reincarnation can be taken for a rather advanced teaching and understanding. Such are the baby-steps of learning.
A capsule view of higher and lower existence reveals that Divine Spirit
forming Existence at and within the Pure God Worlds
is amended or manipulated to incorporate the negative element to give the Lower Psychic Worlds the ability to take on form
which further come together to promote individual experience in actions and relationships. To begin to gain the ability to balance the features and experiences within the Lower Psychic Worlds
one finally discovers and begins to live knowing that it is directly through their own individual consciousness that the design takes place. We are each responsible for our own learning and practice
no one else can do it for us. We can be shown the way
but the carrying out of that
is up to us.
Mans great mistake is in the supposition that greater life can be generated in himself by an intellectual process. Intellectual knowledge is exceedingly important and useful
but its place in the order of the Whole is not that of the originator
and pure Divine Spirit is the ultimate originator of all LIFE
and ultimately is the forming force behind the creation of the Lower Psychic Worlds.
Intellect is not life of itself
but is a function of life. It is an effect
and not the cause. Intellect is the study of the various laws arising from different relations of things to one another. Consequently it does not start from the true creative standpoint
that of creating something entirely new or constructive.
A great example of this is the electrical panel in your house or apartment. The main power sources
whether hydro-electric, nuclear, coal, turbine, whatever
are gathered together in distant areas
the power is gathered and sent to a main power grid and distribution center
this flows out by various ways to cities
then neighborhoods
and then to individual houses and buildings
arriving at the electrical panel
which then distributes the power to various areas and rooms
and further
to specific appliances.
This is exactly what you are doing with the forces of LIFE. Divine Spirit is brought down to the levels and areas within the Lower Psychic Worlds
Soul Itself is an individual yet unknowing aspect of this Divine Spirit
Soul Itself begins to interact with life around It via the Lower Psychic Worlds bodies or sheaths or protective clothing of mind, emotions, and physical body
and by our individual focus
we direct the energy into the features and facets of our own individual lives. Our attention
scattered or focused
designs it all. We aim or focus the energy into this area or that action
most often guided or commanded by past habits that are often SO acceptable and blindly practiced that we are unaware of just where and on what we are focused on
and hence
promoting into our lives. WE
are the distributors
and we
do
distribute. We
specify
beneficially or detrimentally.
If we make detrimental choices
in past lives or currently
and things must be balanced again to bring a bit of inner peace or acceptability
then it is through our own personal consciousness that this takes place
whether we accept it
or understand it
or believe it to be of value. LIFE itself does not make mistakes. The mistakes are made through our demands that LIFE do this-or-that
operate in the specific ways that WE want IT to act
according to the desires of the day
or lifetime. And please
please consider
how many time do we focus on what we do *not* want in or lives
what we do *not* like.
Soul Itself is directly united with Divine Spirit. Soul Itself is indirectly united with the dual nature of Spirit in the Lower Psychic Worlds. Since Soul Itself is the one and only distributor or specifier of Spirit
Divine or otherwise
we are here to learn through our mistakes
and eventually become a beneficial distributing center for Spirit
again
Divine or otherwise. We learn what we are
by first learning what we are not. Soul Itself is not a way to gather material goodies and luxuries to ourselves
although this is something that we learn by first doing exactly that. We believe that the outer glittering bells and whistles are what we must have in order to exist. We later learn that there is a certain balance here
and we can indeed live within the Lower Psychic Worlds by interacting with the luxuries
but at a balanced rate
or
just enough but not too much. In this way we walk the Middle Path
and learn contentment.
One massive factor that you must understand is that all of the outer physical world is an effect. To manifest anything materially
the cause has to be outflowed from someone / something
somewhere. If it has been manifested to exist here
this has been done. If you react to that outer experience
then you become an effect of an effect. You base your interaction on an effect. To really deal with that
or to manipulate it in any way
you need to be a new cause to that effect. You do that
by inwardly perceiving your ideal towards and above that situation
how you would have preferred it to all come out
and NOT basing it on how the effect has already been designed. This has to do with
its not what happens to you that matters
its how you deal with it.
Yes
you can try to manipulate all new causes to always work out your way
which can bring about many more issues youll have to deal with concerning a selfish expectation on life. Many times
the new cause will more involve a greater patience
a greater forgiveness
a greater tolerance
etc.
and then resolving the outer situation as best you can. There will always be issues to contend with in the Lower Psychic Worlds. The learning of the morals, ethics, and virtues is at the backbone of much that happens here.
More next Monday.
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13-09-2022, 01:24 AM
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"...or to manipulate it in any way … you need to be a new “cause” to that effect... You do that … by inwardly perceiving your “ideal” towards and above that situation … how you would have preferred it to all come out … and NOT basing it on how the effect has already been designed.
... greater patience … a greater forgiveness … a greater tolerance … etc. … There will always be “issues” to contend with in the Lower Psychic Worlds. The learning of the morals, ethics, and virtues is at the backbone of much that happens here."
.................
This was gold! The whole last 2 paragraphs for me.
(100s of 1000s of lives, eh? Whew!)
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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13-09-2022, 02:48 PM
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Thanks
Mizz H
Hundreds of thousands of lifetimes is an incredibly conservative statement. Deeply consider
just how slowly we learn. It takes us forever to learn much of anything deeply enough to carry over into a subsequent lifetime. Even a baby-step is monumental. When we start all of this
we know nothing about nothing about nothing. Period. So
you tell me
how long would it take for an individual to progress far enough to even work into this forum board?
One thing that is always fascinating
greater Truth does not care if you believe or not. IT continues and prevails
regardless. And when we complain
that makes it worse. No one is immune.
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13-09-2022, 04:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zorkchop
Thanks … Mizz H … Hundreds of thousands of lifetimes is an incredibly conservative statement. Deeply consider … just how slowly we learn.
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Bartholomew did a reading for me ...and boy...did he go back FAR...1000s of years.
I rem 3 lifetimes just to learn ONE thing...I have about 90% finally.
My gosh.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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19-09-2022, 01:37 PM
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Considerations 150
You Are Living Your Design Now
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There seemed to be some interest in my last post on the Electrical Panel
#149
and so I will expand a bit here.
Every one of us
myself included
is here living as a continuation from our last incarnate lifetime
wherever that may have taken place. To make things easier
I will assume our last lifetime was a physical one on this planet. Ill carry on from there.
The vast
vast majority of the masses have so much accumulated karmic implications stacked up that are waiting to be balanced that each lifetime is dedicated to that. To be clear
this does *not* mean that it is all negative
nor fully deterministic. There are certainly rewards involved
to meet past mates and friends
people that were children in a past life that are not so in this lifetime
the list could be endless. My point being
you are living now what you set in motion in a past life
by whatever word you wish to use to define / describe it. You can use manifest
you can use experience
you can use cause as I did
or you can use any other words that carries the concept. The crux of the concept is that you set in motion
an action
and it makes little to no difference on whether you did this deliberately / intentionally
or not. If we were *clearly* aware of the outcome of each of our outpourings we exude moment to moment
individually
my guess is that we would heavily begin to revise what we think, feel, and believe.
When we say to either ourselves or to another
I dont like this
and that makes me SO angry
or
Im just no good at understanding this or being *that* way
or
Im so stupid and ugly
or
I cant make anything work out the way I want it to
or
This is just so incredibly unfair
I want OFF this planet
or
Im smarter and know more than anyone else that I know
or
the list of our rants, accusations, desires, and declarations would be endless. Whether you actually voice these beliefs to someone else or not
makes no difference. You voice them to yourselves
inwardly and / or outwardly. That
is an example of setting a cause in motion. The options
are endless.
When you think, feel, and / or say anything along these lines
you are stretching out an invisible cord and plugging it directly into Spirit
Divine Spirit or otherwise
mostly otherwise ( the attenuated Divine Spirit that incorporates the negative impulses to form the Lower Psychic Worlds )
this gives your power
your impulse
your design
to your life
and this then leads to future experiences along the same lines. In fact
this would be examples of being an effect of an effect
because you set in motion the initial statement or belief long ago
so long ago you will never remember exactly when
( this is one of the reasons it was designed for you to not clearly remember past lives )
and that past statement set in motion a belief or cause or manifestation
and the current expression of it is simply a continuation of it
an effect of an effect.
Everything in the Lower Psychic Worlds is a manifestation of form
set in motion by someone
somewhere
for some reason. Form
cannot become form
without this initial putting forth of its design. We can simplify it greatly by just saying
I AM this or that
or BE-ing this or that
and on we go with setting in motion a cause
which will be balanced at some point
beneficially or detrimentally
the latter usually bringing us some degree of discomfort
mild
or otherwise. Nothing just forms on its own.
Obviously
once it is initially formed
we simply add to its reality by focusing on it more and more. We do this every time we think and feel
on whatever we are focusing on at that moment. Thus
we feed our personal reality according to what we focus on. Its like focusing the suns rays with a magnifying glass
we can have our focus very widely scattered
or we can focus intently on it. Repetition obviously is a feeding mechanism.
All of this is a learning process for each individual
at each individual rate and level. There is NO end to the learning process within the Lower Psychic Worlds
we will always have the opportunity to learn from the experiences in the Lower Psychic Worlds
which comes back to
its not what happens to you but it is how you react to it that counts. Obviously
for the majority of our lifetimes here
we give little thought to just how our experiences were or are set up
how *we* designed them. Our attention is so strongly focused on all outer experiences that we just read
and then react again
and again
etc
all to outer situations and conditions. We have little choice in that. Its only later
perhaps much later
that we can slow our thoughts and feelings down enough to really become aware of
Just *what* am I setting myself up for by thinking this-or-that way?
Even when we begin to become aware of just what possible effects our thoughts and beliefs may carry
( LIFE has an uncanny ability to pay off and balance our experiences from us in incredibly surprising ways )
we then begin to tell ourselves
Well heck
I certainly didnt like the way that all turned out yesterday
so
Im gonna revise everything to make it all come out MY way and then Ill be happy. Ill just revise the way that other person thinks or believes and then s/hell say and do what I want and
bingo.
Translation
controlling and powering over others.
Think that approach is going to balance it all? Maybe in your eyes
but not in the overall balance of the Whole
for youre manipulating someone else to fulfill your design. Free will is thrown out the widow.
And so we begin to learn
and to live
tolerance, patience, forgiveness, etc. We learn to let people be who and what they are
perhaps at first by arguing with them to try and convince them otherwise
and eventually just accepting them as they are and
if we need to
by moving away from them ( without resentment or bitterness
which extends the lessons involved )
and finding others that are more along the lines of the way we think and feel. Like attracts like to bring us momentary contentment
opposites attract to often bring us lessons
to face what we do not like around us
and to figure out *why* we dislike this-and-that
and to balance it
to just let it go and not let it bother us
to not let others or outer situations dictate what and how we believe. So many of us are living a robotic life
outer experiences
conditions, situations, or individuals
controlling and dictating our reactions
all based off how we reacted last time. Our infamous patterns and habits
so familiar
we dont even consider them as such anymore. We just claim that thats the way I am / we are
and carry on.
Another hundred lifetimes from now
when youe still doing the same thing and its still bringing you the same results / effects
you may begin to think / believe / real otherwise.
LIFE
has eternity on ITs side. LIFE can easily outlast you. When you begin to inwardly say
Its about time I begin to face, understand, and then do something about this-or-that
is when we begin to design and balance our own education
and growth.
More next Monday.
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A 90-post index is found at thread post number 368
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A second index for posts 92 - 120 is on page 50
post # 499
Both posts may move a bit due to welcomed moderator editing. They both will be in the vicinity of the above locations.
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19-09-2022, 07:30 PM
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I only read half so far and now have to assess my whole LIFE!!
I know 3 other lives...oh... no.. 4.
What did I set in motion?

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Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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19-09-2022, 10:40 PM
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Mizz H
and all others that have an interest in this approach
let me make it easier for you.
As an sequential evolution
or unfolding
lets say an individual doesnt have a clue about reincarnation
then they begin to wonder
then they get suspicious
then they begin to get some personal experiences hat offers some valid hints
then they get enough experience to make it a valid belief in their overall perspective. Now theyll want to find out who they were
wanting to believe they were someone famous
looking to find value or status in what they must have been in past lives. All of this can go on and on and on
for many, many lifetimes.
But the bottom line
the important crux of it all
it makes little to no difference what or who you were in any past life
not specifically at least
because all you have *ever* been
you are living right now. Close personal and inner investigation will show you the belief set you tend to view the world from. It really makes no difference *where* the initial springboard was that set the current patterns in motion
it only matters that you uncover and understand them NOW
and begin to address them.
More often than not
past lives will be misinterpreted. Well want to read all kinds of fame and glory into them
or scores of past romances and soul mates. If we misinterpret those
and then pursue them as if they were real
we bury ourselves in a dead end alley. Past lives were lived in completely different conditions. Interpreting them correctly is a tough, tough guess
at most.
Spend the time in understanding Self as best you can
NOW
and carry on from there. Youll save yourself a lot of time and grief
and multiple misleading wishes and dreams
hoping that we must have been Cleopatra or the king of all of Egypt at some time. The best approach is
you are all you have ever been
right NOW. Spending a lot of time sleuthing possibilities of what you have ben in the past
is WAY too easy to misinterpret
and drawing wrong conclusions can send you off on tangents that can take lifetimes to correct
if you ever do. You are dealing now
with all you have ever been
NOW. Try not to make it more complicated than that
although in the beginning
most people do try to figure out the who I was bit. If you start believing I was Napoleon
that can lead you into a massive can of worms. Not worth it.
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20-09-2022, 09:06 AM
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Assuming that what you say is true, and I've no reason to believe it's not, we are essentially playing the game by rules that are not the ones we read about in the rule book. Our society believes that thoughts have no effect, either now or at any time in the future, and emotions only in the presence of the other person, and only if they pick up on it. We are being misled, whether on purpose, or not.
I read somewhere that the more willful the deed, the heavier the karmic debt. I suppose the same is true for thoughts and emotions. Trying to censor one's thoughts and emotions is useless; it's impossible to undo what has already been done. However, 1) you can do your best not to put any more force or will into any undesirable ones, to not give them any more "umph."
2) A stronger, but more difficult version to do, version of this is to imagine it's like a typewriter at the end of the line, where the keys don't strike. You're trying to imagine, and wishing, that whatever it it is will have no effect. Really wishing is the hard part.
There's someone I somewhat dislike, an easier case. I did the first easily, but wasn't ready for the second.
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20-09-2022, 12:54 PM
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JoeColo
The rule book we more often play by is written via the religionists, philosophers, metaphysicians, politicians, and the world at large
to try and at last keep us compatible with each other. Though there might be discrepancies between Earths rule book and that of LIFE
the latter just seems to work from a bit more broad or foundational perspective
as one might suspect. Your two rules are certainly useable. We find that there really are few
if any
choices that are good or bad. That difference is made by our own mental perspectives as we lay that distinction on how we wish to perceive at the moment. Its the same with consciousness in general. There really are no higher or lower levels of consciousness
theyre all the same
but *we* apply the label by what we believe and all of this adds to the burden we carry and the perspective we view from
via mind and emotions. These chosen viewpoints keep us at certain areas in the Whole of consciousness
if you will
and keep us from seeing others. Through gentle and consistent effort
we can make changes.
Its easy to see that this truly is a path we walk
bringing us into viewpoints of distant landscapes and sceneries.
On we go.
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26-09-2022, 01:14 PM
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Considerations 151A …
The Mind’s Eye …
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It has been quite a while since I have addressed the entire presumption that so many of the experiences and lessons we learn here in the Lower Psychic Worlds are traps … misleading tangents … blind alleys … dead ends. The Negative Forces entire purpose is to keep Soul Itself trapped here within these Lower Psychic Worlds for as long as possible … and it takes absolutely NO difference to them if the game is fair or not … because it isn’t. Whether you wish to label the Negative Forces as Satan or the Devil or Kal Niranjan or anything / anyone else … makes no difference. The Negative Forces are here to provide the negative element so that form can be manifested … and to keep Soul Itself here for as long as possible … by any means necessary. It is the ageless battle between right and wrong / good and bad / positive and negative … whatever designation and understanding you wish to plug in on it. Makes no difference … the bottom line is the same.
The topic of the mind’s eye is a good example of that. Mind itself … cannot see. It *has* no eyes. Mind interprets what we see via the physical senses. It passes judgments on what we physically see. It cannot “see” on its own.
But … there is a sense that can be experienced … called the spiritual eye or the tisra til … promoted and used in visualization and similar inner visualizing of scenes. Our dream world is another example of all of this … for what exactly “sees” our dreams and then brings them back into our awareness for us to remember upon awakening?
That sight … is actually the sight of Soul Itself … yet still encumbered by the wrappings of the Lower Psychic Worlds bodies of emotions and mind, memories, and on into the physical realm itself. What “sees” … what “senses” … is the sight of Soul Itself. Soul Itself does indeed … see … yet that traditional teachings try to mislead and misinform … by calling this vision … the mind’s eye … wanting to slide this ability over to the mind … hijacking it and claiming it as a mental function … and not understand it as the vision of Soul. It is a superb trap.
Secondly … many try to duplicate an actual “formed” vision inwardly much as we would see them physically. We try to make our visualizations as detailed, accurate, and “formed” as the physical version of it would be. People work and work at visualizing … and often struggle greatly. The vision of Soul Itself is not a duplicate of the physical ability to see. It is much the same … yes … but it is MUCH more a general sensing of the object or scenario … you learn to sense the experience more than actually SEE it.
No matter where you are in your hose or apartment … if you closed your eyes and “sensed” or “took yourself” into your bedroom … you could inwardly know you’re there. Even using memory … you can walk into that room and know where most everything is … at least the larger objects. You could walk from there to the kitchen … and “sense” the same. You do not have to SEE the various objects but you do sense their presence.
That … is the sight of Soul Itself. Soul … senses more … MUCH more … the It visually sees as though it were a physical viewing. It is an easy, gentle sensing of what is going on … and it can e developed to an incredibly high degree … and deeply depended upon.
Along these same lines … if you were to close your eyes and sense that you are standing in front of your mother ( or similar ) … and then switch to standing in front of your father ( or similar ) … you could sense the presence … know who it was … and you do not have to “SEE” down to the clothes they are wearing shoes, accessories, hair color, etc. You sense who it is. If someone were able to project the sensation into your mind … you could identify it.
It’s not a heavy, demanding, detailed seeing. It is a full, easy sensing that certainly can be developed to a very high degree … and as we travel the path … it is.
Now … why am I telling you this?
When I mention revision … or going inside and setting up goals … this is how you inwardly sense it. The mind cannot distinguished between seeing something physically or via Soul Itself inwardly. When you come across unwanted scenarios … go inside later on … take it to where it begins to go “wrong” … and revise it so it comes out at least to a neutral state or perhaps beneficially. The massive precaution is … do NOT use this to power over other people … control them … make them change their behavior … make everything come out the way YoU like it via selfish reasons. If someone assaulted you … you can certainly defend yourself to whatever degree you wish. But to inwardly go inside and begin to make people behave the way you wish them to … can carry massive karmic implications.
You can do the same with dreams.
All of this is to teach YoU … to be flexible and accommodating to what LIFE hands you … and how you act to it. Staying in balance is the key … without making others cater to your choices. Ethics … prevail. Tolerance … forgiveness … compromise … all of that. Slowly … you cut down on letting other people and situations control you … what you think … how you feel … lessening the power they have over YoU.
Setting up goals or new patterns of behavior … takes practice. Just like a physical routine of exercise … it takes time to make a difference. If you are trying to “rewrite” an old habit or pattern … it takes repetition. It only needs to take minutes. It does NOT have to be a long and involved scenario.
A good way to understand this is that inner work or visualization is kind of like a focused daydream. If you put enough feeling into your daydreams and repeat them … they just may manifest … though perhaps not with the exact specifics that you “daydreamed.” Daydreams are most often fanciful retreats. Designing your patterns is much more sensed, focused, and felt.
I will put in a follow-up post on Thursday to give two very easy but highly useable techniques to use, broaden and enhance this whole design / redesign scenario. Like any revision or design scenario … as with any “exercise” … repetition counts. These scenarios to not have to be long and drawn out … five to ten minutes would do just fine … maybe more as one explores and enhances the design. This isn’t done via a two-hour meditation. Right before you go to sleep is fabulous.
More Thursday.
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