What does the Jewish faith believe about Jesus?

[Guard]

Just a simple question as I am curious to know. Thanks!

[RabbiO]

G -

Once you get beyond the Jewish positions that you're probably aware of:
a) Jesus was not the messiah;
b) Jesus is not G-d incarnate or the son of G-d;
c) Jesus was not born of a virgin;
d) Jesus was not resurrected from the dead;
there is no one belief, there are not any beliefs regarding Jesus that can be called THE Jewish beliefs.

B'shalom,

Peter

[Honza]

Originally Posted by RabbiO

G -

Once you get beyond the Jewish positions that you're probably aware of:
a) Jesus was not the messiah;
b) Jesus is not G-d incarnate or the son of G-d;
c) Jesus was not born of a virgin;
d) Jesus was not resurrected from the dead;
there is no one belief, there are not any beliefs regarding Jesus that can be called THE Jewish beliefs.

B'shalom,

Peter

Interesting. In particular that Judaism does not believe in the Immaculate Conception or The Resurrection....

[RabbiO]

Originally Posted by Honza

Interesting. In particular that Judaism does not believe in the Immaculate Conception or The Resurrection....

Honza -

Actually, I hadn't brought up the Immaculate Conception - which refers not to Jesus, but rather Mary being born without sin. Jews do not believe in original sin so there is no need for the IC.

B'shalom,

Peter

[Honza]

Originally Posted by RabbiO

Honza -

Actually, I hadn't brought up the Immaculate Conception - which refers not to Jesus, but rather Mary being born without sin. Jews do not believe in original sin so there is no need for the IC.

B'shalom,

Peter

I thought the Immaculate Conception was the condition of Mary concieving Christ while still a virgin i.e. through God.

Originally Posted by Honza

I thought the Immaculate Conception was the condition of Mary concieving Christ while still a virgin i.e. through God.

No, it's a Catholic doctrine that Mary was born without the taint of original sin.

Originally Posted by Honza

I thought the Immaculate Conception was the condition of Mary concieving Christ while still a virgin i.e. through God.

Immaculate conception is a very non-Torah idea. Besides, G-d is the third partner in every intimate union between husband and wife.

Originally Posted by Honza

Interesting. In particular that Judaism does not believe in the Immaculate Conception or The Resurrection....

There are Gospels that don't believe in it - The Aquarian Gospel for one (at least the Immaculate Conception). The Koran says Jesus was not crucified as do other sources I mention in my book.
I'd post a link but I can't so I google Aquarian Gospel or try to get to the forum at my site be going to Oracle of the Phoenix dot com.

[Reverend Keith]

Originally Posted by sbjazzman

There are Gospels that don't believe in it - The Aquarian Gospel for one (at least the Immaculate Conception). The Koran says Jesus was not crucified as do other sources I mention in my book.
I'd post a link but I can't so I google Aquarian Gospel or try to get to the forum at my site be going to Oracle of the Phoenix dot com.

Personally, I'm not big on the authenticity of the Aquarian Gospel. However, you don't have to go so far afield to find a gospel that doesn't teach the virgin birth or the resurrection. The Gospel of Mark seems to imply that Jesus is adopted as a Son of God at his baptism, and doesn't mention his birth. And most scholars agree that the last part of Mark that describes the resurrection is a later addition.

Originally Posted by Reverend Keith

The Gospel of Mark seems to imply that Jesus is adopted as a Son of God at his baptism, and doesn't mention his birth.

In Luke 3: 22; Those who would have you believe that Jesus was a god who became a man, changed the original verse, to; “Thou art my beloved son in who I am well pleased.”

While in Luke 3: 22; (In place of “Thou art my beloved son in who I am well pleased.”) The following authorities of the second, third, and fourth centuries read, “This day I have begotten thee,” vouched for by Codex D, and the most ancient copies of the old latin (a, b. c. ff.I), by Justin Martyr (AD 140), Clemens Alex, (AD. 190), Methodius (AD. 290), among the Greeks. And among the Latins, Lactaitius (AD 300), Hilary (AD) Juvencus (AD. 330), Faustus (AD. 400) and Augustine. All these oldest manuscripts were changed completely. They now read, “This is my son in whom I am well pleased.” Whereas the original variant was, “Thou art my Son. This day I have begotten thee.”

Hebrew 5: 5; has; “You are my son, ‘TODAY’ I have become your Father.”

Jesus, the son of Mary and her half brother Joseph, who were both sired by Heli=Alexander Helios III, was born, 'Son of God', not by blood, nor by the will of the flesh, nor by the will of man, but by the spirit of our Lord God and saviour, which, on the day he was baptised, descended upon him in the form of a dove, as the heavenly voice was heard to say; "You are my son, 'THIS DAY' I have begotten thee".

Peace to all believers.