The power of simple belief

[sky]

Originally Posted by Molearner

Sky,
IMO the word for heart belief is faith.

Yes thanks Mo, I agree. There is Head belief and Heart belief and they are different....

[Maisy]

It's like that belief oh you are poor or unsuccessful or sick etc because you don't know God or believe enough etc. Very judgmental. There are a ton of people selling this idea through books and courses etc. The power of belief. Buy my book or program to solve all your problems.

There was a guy here locally who owned a big hotel and he refused to evict people who could no longer pay their rent as he was a Christian and he said God would provide. It was on the news here. He said he believed 100% in God and that by doing the right thing God would provide. Few months later the bank took over the hotel and kicked everyone out to build luxury condos.

Originally Posted by BigJohn

Sounds nice......
but it seems that more and more people are being swayed by evolution. To them, the Evolution Theory has surpassed God(s)/god(s).

BigJohn,

I have never heard anyone extolling the idea that evolution will be our savior. The only ‘evolution’ that really matters is our own personal evolution of which we are the architect……and it is spiritual not material…..

Originally Posted by Maisy

There was a guy here locally who owned a big hotel and he refused to evict people who could no longer pay their rent as he was a Christian and he said God would provide. It was on the news here. He said he believed 100% in God and that by doing the right thing God would provide. Few months later the bank took over the hotel and kicked everyone out to build luxury condos.

Maisy,

Of course. That is the audacity of putting God to the test…not very Christian to me. We had some crazy evangelist here in the States praying and flopping around on the stage declaring that God had eliminated Covid…..millions died after this demonstration of prayer…..” you can’t always get what you want”..mainly because you are not God…..:)

[sky]

Imo, beliefs are just mental representations of the ways our brains expect things to behave, when they don't we quickly change our beliefs....

[sky]

Originally Posted by Maisy

I don't believe belief can change anything about what we are due karma wise.

Karma is not 'set in stone' so what you think is 'due' karma wise is changeable....

[sky]

Originally Posted by Molearner

Maisy,
Of course. That is the audacity of putting God to the test…not very Christian to me.

Some do put God to the test that's why beliefs and faith wane..... they are changeable to suit.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by Maisy

I tend to believe it's due to a very narrow definition of what God is. Typically they don't believe in a humanlike God. A man with a beard sitting on a cloud and so on. One could define God as the universe as it is and as it operates. Or define God as the type of energy that is aware.

If you look at the two creation accounts: They are based on the belief of two separate entities. The second creation account is based on what people perceived their God to be. If you look at some of the posts on this forum about that entity, I would say most disapprove of that entity. As for the first entity: I would say some 'catch on' what that entity is all about but do not seem to grasp the full meaning of what that 'God' is all about.

[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by Molearner

The chapter concludes with verses 39-40….”These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised. God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.”

this is exactly why i no longer like to think in terms of what I can get, when I am believing, praying, being positive, etc... it seems to me any more that what god wants to give is so much better than any of the pale imitations of life that I keep coming up with and trying to want...

[Miss Hepburn]

Hi, I'm glad this subject has brought up a lot of discussion!
Thank you, you guys.