Body, Emotions, Mind … and Beyond

[zorkchop]

Considerations Thirty-Three …

Soul 3

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How many of you have sincerely attempted to take an objective / outside view of who and what you are as Soul? How many on this forum board could make the genuine statement that they know for a fact they are not the physical body and / or the mind?

Can you?

The emotions … so invisible to the human eye save for the effects they stamp on our daily lives … rule more of our experiences than we care to admit to. Just because we are not overwhelmed with powerful emotions on any belief we hold does not mean we do not have emotional feelings feeding them.

The battle to be honestly balanced takes forever … and is a daily milestone … let alone to be at least somewhat detached … whatever you believe the word "detached" to mean.

Just as the outer physical body is the heavier protective shell we must wear in order to interact here, the human emotions are the heavier, the more gripping of our feelings. Try feeling … without emotion … and for those of you who might wonder … intuition is much more than a “feeling.”

The human emotions of anger, fear, mistrust, abandonment, lust, greed, vanity … and on and on … all of these can be deeply felt and can certainly take a person over. The feelings of the character absolutes … courage, strength, forgiveness, tolerance, patience, etc … without applying them to a direct and personal experience in your life … these feelings you can carry around inside you without losing yourself to them and yet call upon them when in need. These latter distinct absolutes are not … human emotions. Benevolence can be given to all … without the frantic question as to "what is love?" Give all their space … and accept where they are on the Path … even if they do not know where they are themselves. They are Soul … nonetheless.

So we have the heavy suit-of-armor of the physical body … and the emotions to quickly give us fight-or-flight decisions without needing to sit down and ponder the possible outcomes … to give the female the necessary nurturing to care for the young … to give the male the readiness to defend the personal territory if necessary.

What would be the "next protective layer" or facet … so to speak?

If you think that it might be the mental body … you would be wrong.

Since the human brain and our pent-up habits and pattern that we have taught ourselves to live within during each incarnation is not brought with us from lifetime to lifetime … another layer is necessary to fulfill this factor. Voila … the causal body … or the seed body … carrying all the karmic implications … the habits and patterns we have practiced and accepted deeply enough to be a part of our awareness and consciousness and to be a part of our individual lifestyle … all found here … "below" the newer brain and its slate-clearing tendencies for each incarnation. Anything we try to learn now will be colored by these accepted tendencies. This is the character … the possibilities, probabilities, impressions, tendencies that we bring along with us into each lifetime … always building upon the previous set.

These are the habits and patterns. These are the distant memories of long-ago lifetimes. Again … that they are carried here only proclaims them to be that "strong." If people took these into consideration … most every question asking why a person is this way or that … why is this person born with this characteristic or handicap … why is this child a vegetarian while no other family member is … all of those … all find their answers here. Karmic implications cannot be escaped. As stated before … one most often pays their debts to LIFE without coin.

One of the strongest impressions we carry into each lifetime is the moment of physical death in the previous lifetime. If it is violent … then it is certainly carried forth … and is often the cause of many "phobias."

Many are caught up in trying to figure out the "who" or "why" of our past lives. It is a fascinating study. Commonly … the claims end up to be strong guesses. There cannot be specific proof. Dreams can be had that reflect past lives … but one cannot prove this to anyone else. To "overcome" the effects of a past life is often a case of misplaced effort. If someone needs to correct a current habit or pattern … start from right now … and proceed from here.

You are living the effects of all you have ever been. If you are sincerely content … you are most fortunate. Enjoy your lifetime. One doesn't HAVE to make changes.

There is the tendency for LIFE to seek out weakness and exploit it. In this way do we uncover, discover, and revise.

The causal body is a facet of the mind but an aspect that "stays with us" and is not replaced with each lifetime. By design … there is a curtain drawn over each "new" mind so that we do not have to remember aspects of previous lives. To live under the tendencies is enough for us to deal with.

More later

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[zorkchop]

Considerations Thirty-Four …

Soul 4

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This forum board is often focused on the mental aspects of understanding Life around us as individual travelers on this rather adventurous journey. I have personally put in a thread or two or three about some of the aspects of the mind. There is an index to the first 30 posts of this set of offerings on forum post #89 … and one may refer to some of the earlier posts to refresh and see how various aspects of the Whole journey come together … even within the psychic lower worlds … but we often just do not / cannot see them.

In the previous post … the Causal body can be accepted as part of the entire mental scheme surrounding Soul Itself … but the causal body is designed so that it is not wiped out with each incarnation.

The closest wrappings … or sheaths … or bodies … surrounding Soul Itself are the mental bodies … the conscious mind and the subconscious or etheric mind. One can sense the entire vibrational layers at work in considering the heavier conscious thoughts and the much lighter subconscious or etheric thoughts or imagery. Just because we do not consciously "think" the subconscious thoughts makes them no less viable. The etheric mind is where most of our current habitual behaviors are held … and used. Subconscious thoughts are often just images … or tags if you will … and are "symbols" or remembered pictures of the behavior or thought pattern we wish to currently live from. If we had to consciously think how to walk each time we take a step … it would make life impossible. If a concert pianist had to consciously "think" each note as s/he plays it … we would not hear the exquisite melodies one can play. So the subconscious habitual behavior obviously is a vital part that Soul uses to interpret Its surroundings.

If the physical body is as a heavy deep sea diving suit … then the etheric mind would be our underwear … and the conscious mind would be our first full, thin body suit. How many of you have considered … that the conscious mind is the scout … the safeguard … the sentry … the primary filter of any and all that works its way to the etheric mind? When we make a habit of accepting any and all info into our conscious considerations … and we feed it misleading, misinformed, random, opposing, contradictory, faddish, or controlling thoughts … where and what else is the subconscious / etheric to do with that?

Even it can somewhat retreat and let the conscious mind take charge … which is like letting the inmates run the asylum. Then we wonder … why am I thinking / acting in such-and-such a way?

The etheric mind is the closest layer to Soul Itself. The conscious mind was put in its place to filter and safeguard it. Look around. You can see how that's working for all around you. Since the Path is an individual endeavor … all attempts should concern your viewpoint alone. We can certainly assist those around us … but to make demands as to their thought processes … that carries heavy karmic implications. It is also an insanely common process that all engage in.

There are still distinct variations between how Soul Itself would … and does … process information and how mind completes the same operation. The use of the mental faculties is definitely necessary when here in these psychic worlds. Yes … we can live a bit more from Soul Itself and a bit less from the mental aspects … but that is a long-sought and hard-won lifestyle. It IS possible … and many do it. Yet even when living from that level … it is a daily conflict between mind and Soul … since mind again is Souls greatest tool … and also Its greatest enemy. Mind watches Souls practices as a cat watches a mouse. One false move by Soul … dropping into the mental areas to profoundly consider an erroneous mental tidbit that use to be accepted during an earlier phase of anyones life … and that hammer will come down on the mouse / Soul. Mind wants control. It's as simple as that.

The greater abilities to get inside and maintain awareness … is done only when all else is quiet. Lay the body down, quiet the emotions, slow the thoughts … and then reassessment just begins … and new perceptions are spawned. We can sidetrack the mind with affirmations and such as we are engaged in daily life … but the real work takes place during the quiet, inner times.

There are some things about Soul Itself that I can reveal … but when Soul finally finds Itself in and on the 5th Plane … given various names by those religions that acknowledge it … it is more of what Soul finds "around" It than just discovering the facets of Soul Itself. It is a completely different way of living … of perception. And though Soul can think thoughts … it is not … mental.

More later.

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LIFE becomes more of ITSELF

I was blown out of my mind as they say, by this quote.
Nice zorkchop

[zorkchop]

Considerations Thirty-Five …

Soul 5

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What can I say about Soul? Just ponder all that has been offered on the forum board … and stated and claimed and surmised and bantered about as to who, what, where, why … the nature of Soul. Actually … the nature of Soul Itself is incredibly simple.

The basic make-up … if you will … of Soul is … consciousness. That … and little more. Yes … It has some senses … and can use words in a thought process … but Soul is basically just consciousness … no more no less … not consciousness of … not consciousness about … not consciousness for … not consciousness in or out or around or within or any of that. It is just … consciousness. Period.

Mind gets hold of this … and that's when the fireworks begins. Consciousness … of what ? ! ?How deep is this consciousness … what level? How do I expand this consciousness? Am I conscious … or am I not conscious … and when am I either … or neither? Am I observing or am I the observed?

That … is mind … trying to understand something that mind is not meant to understand.

Have you ever given any consideration to just how long on this infamous Path business that it takes to even become aware … that you are conscious? Most consider mental thought to be all there is … and when one can learn to settle mental thought down to a crawl … they just lay there … claiming consciousness at some basic level … and in a sense … they are right.

But I will state again … to bring a bit of clarity into all of this … the only difference amongst any single individual consciousness and the greater lords and gods, the angels, all of the lofty supreme entities written so much about … the only difference is the level of what they are conscious of … how broad it is … the abilities and capabilities they have realized that they … as Soul … are.

NOT HAVE !

ARE !

All the talk about limitations and such … this is where they come into play … in just discovering all of this. If you … personally as Soul … had been around long enough to gain the experience to run entire planetary systems or assist in the creation of most anything you can name … you could do that right now … IF you had the experience and had proven to those overseers … so to speak … that you are capable of carrying out the task.

All Soul is the same. We are all of the same divinity. We are NOT all One. We DO come from One divinity … but as Soul … we are an individualized creation. My experiences are not your experiences … and vice versa … ad infinitum.

Soul tends to live at a greater level of what I have been discussing in the past half dozen posts or so. I have suggested that we take goals and ideals and keep our focus on those as we discover, revise, and live beyond our limitations. This is incredibly basic … but nonetheless … true.

Soul … makes a lifestyle out of that … and begins to live beyond the mind because to live from the more pure absolutes … just to live within them … not to categorize them or analyze them or define them or judge them … but to find the pure side of these attributes as they are before we identify them with specific experiences … and to live there always.

And then to build beyond that.

Yes … there are other facets … but the main crux is just the above. It is mind that makes it more complex. In the end … the old saying of … It is very simple … but it is not easy … is very … very … true.

Soul's main facet is … focus. Its own focus within the entire sea of consciousness. What, where, how you focus … defines what you believe about Life and about your own Self.

We've been trained for eons to look outside ourselves for value and worth. It's a con. And yet … once again … we have to learn what we are not … before we learn what we are.

Voila … it's education time. And it's a complete education. No one gets a free pass. It is ruthless … and we learn absolute personal responsibility for EVERY-thing we do … at ALL levels … at a tremendous cost.

In the end … Soul turns out to be the greatest of all creations in Existence. The CCG ( Core Creator God … generic term ) is not a creation. IT's Essence … Divine Spirit ( another generic but most appropriate term ) … is more of an exuded aura … a force … a living force. There is no "next level" to manifest a Living Force into … whatever. There is no "God Brain" to manifest this-or-that.

Ergo … Soul.

Without Soul … none of this would exist … save for the CCG … and IT's Divine Spirit … should IT choose to exude that out into Existence. There are times when IT does … like now … and there are times when IT doesn't … and the tales of Soul being put to sleep and drawn up into some kind of level and wait for it to all start again … is true … at least those Souls who have not made it to Soul's own true home.

So Soul is consciousness … and is a focusing agent. To learn what all of that means … is what you're walking right at this moment.

More later.

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Well writtain,zorkchop.

[zorkchop]

Considerations Thirty-Six …

Soul 6

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Without a doubt … Soul uses mind for eons. Millions of lifetimes … incarnated within various forms. We teach ourselves habitual responses to various things … others teach and demand that we adhere to beliefs and customs whether they are right or wrong … and for the longest time … we just do not question. Sheep do not apply critical thinking. The power of others over us restricts and dominates. When entire lifetimes put us under authoritarian control … whether social, philosophical, governmental, physical, or religious … those behaviors do not give up easily and are deciphered anew with each incarnation. What the initial experience was for any of our core beliefs would be almost impossible to ascertain. Something that happened ten lifetimes ago … maybe 300 to 500 years in the past … what a different world it was then.

Soul slowly realizes that It holds restrictive beliefs and patterns. When an experience solidifies a certain response in the past … often a response simply to survive … it will automatically execute the same response when a similar experience happens now. Mind will respond with the speed and assurance of a knee-jerk reaction. We don't even think about it … we just react … and later … we often wonder why. Most of the time … you will never find out the actual "why" of such impulses … but you can make an educated guess as to the Top 10 possibilities … none of which are pleasant.

Slowly … Soul begins to realize just how much guilt and ease of blaming anything but ourselves has done to our perspective and the way we interact with and accept our own personal lives. Soul begins to build towards confidence, strength, courage, forgiveness of the past and … the big one … taking full responsibility for any and all actions we put forth within ourselves or against another … in word, thought, feeling, or deed.

Just as a mother knows her child’s cry … so does Soul know the almost-magnetic pull of God. Our biggest job is to determine what is the forcible draw of mind verses the subtle senses of Soul. The mind and emotions will take that call that a mother may recognize and filter it through the mental filter system and change the entire allure / signal fire of the Call of God and Spirit.

It would take that call and sidetrack it … filter it … spin it … hijack it … to something that mind prefers and recognizes. It’s that simple. Soul doesn’t know any better. Soul doesn’t know the difference … yet.

When one does find out that these sidetracks happen … and it is incredibly difficult and rather unpleasant … the emotions are going to continue to make you feel a certain way akin to the thought processes and conclusions that you have always used or retreated to … behind which you have always hidden … and this is tough to override. Everyone believes their mental conclusions are true … and for the moment … in your own personal life … they are. Eventually you achieve a level of experience where you can make distinctions.

At a higher level … there is a precept above the mental conclusions. This is when the adventure gets very tenuous.

Soul … contained in the psychic bodies … tends to ride outward just as the expansion of LIFE continues into the ultimate physical universe from beyond … continuing from the Center of All of LIFE on outwards. The higher dimensions also express outwardly. The Pure God Worlds do not … they stay pretty much the same because they do not contain the negative element / aspect to the atom to give it motion … as we understand motion and energy to be.

When Soul begins to turn inward … even with simple prayer and ritual … Soul begins to turn back towards God … or at the very least … the origin of one level from another. From that point on the inner worlds of the individual become more prominent … and gains influence.

You cannot / should not negate or dismiss the inner or the outer. In these lower psychic worlds you tend to lean your focus a bit towards one or the other for the necessary moments … but you are aware of … and considerate of … both. You learn what level of perspective is best for what experience … and then live from that viewpoint for the duration of that experience … for as long as it continues.

Very little is an either / or experience.

You uncover and find that … holding to yesterday as the assessment of all that you are … is limiting … until you begin to choose and build anew. It goes beyond the simple breaking of a habit. You learn and understand the Wholeness of it all … and of all that you do. Mind wants to return to the familiar … Soul wishes to advance to freedom as It learns to become an eternal part of the Wholeness of LIFE by becoming more and more of the precepts and laws of LIFE IT-self.

When you can even truly SEE this in its depths … let alone begin to take knowing steps … you have come far.

More later

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[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by zorkchop

Considerations Thirty-Five …
Soul 5

What can I say about Soul? Just ponder all that has been offered on the forum board … and stated and claimed and surmised and bantered about as to who, what, where, why … the nature of Soul. Actually … the nature of Soul Itself is incredibly simple.

The basic make-up … if you will … of Soul is … consciousness. That … and little more. Yes … It has some senses … and can use words in a thought process … but Soul is basically just consciousness … no more no less … not consciousness of … not consciousness about … not consciousness for … not consciousness in or out or around or within or any of that. It is just … consciousness. Period.

You're doing a bang up job here, I'll say again...you are one smart cookie.

Could I add my 2 cents?
I would say - Soul is not just consciousness and little more...Soul is that and huge
Heart ---just like it's Maker. And just like it's Maker/Father/Source/Sustainer ---it is nothing
if not pure feeeelings...feelings that are almost unimaginable in their depth and height and breadth.

[zorkchop]

Mz. H …

That may be true … but the feelings involved are *nothing* like the emotional feelings known to the human experience. The end game is much more of a feeling of DE-tachment … which do not involve human emotions … in fact … quite the opposite … but in the same Light this does not lead to being some cold-hearted, unfeeling, indifferent entity. This is one of the true paradoxes on the Path.

Think about it … SO much of what we “feeeel” about … we attach ourselves to. That attachment binds us to that object … whether it is material trinket or human entity.

This is one of the great reasons why so few are eager to step farther on the Path than the moderate levels we know of today. So many are after that bliss … that ecstasy … that stomach-churning love … the cessation of problems … the peace … all of that.

The end game is not that … and we continue to demand that it is.

It’s one of the biggest reasons why so few reach the “end game” … and so few even want to try. The end game is NOT what we have been led to believe it is … and most do not even consider it until we become desperate enough to uncover the actual Truth … even when it is so different than what we have been told is the “truth” … the we just have to … no matter what it involves.

I have been reluctant to write even this much about it … and probably will really discuss it much in depth. To those that insist that the “end game” involves the human emotions to any real degree … the end game is a real disappointment … but by the time one is really ready to wrestle with what is involved with that infamous “end game” … the fact that it does not incorporate deep human emotions is an acceptable fact.

Many turn back … just so they can “feeeeel.”

I’ve said before … the Path is ruthless.

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[Miss Hepburn]

Well, you and I will disagree on this subject. Of course, I understand the human emotions - -
that's why I said unimaginable - they are not exactly human emotions, correct.
I can't explain how I know this, but suffice it to say it was Divine intervention-
and I have never been the same since ---and that was '72 or the summer of '73! (No drugs)

I have been having these 'things' downloaded into me for decades.
(Picture a beam of stardust on me and the entire room filling with an electric charge,
barometric pressure changing ---and boom....it's happening again...
transfixed as some Divine Insight fills me. Gulp. I'm weird like that.)

Oh, and I'm adding: 'God', by whatever name - is indeed Impersonal and also so Personal
that that in itself is hard to believe - how much.
We may be looking at the same view from different angles.
The classic 5 blind men reporting back on what an elephant is to them. Ha!

Always a pleasure to talk with you. :)

Originally Posted by zorkchop

Mz. H …

That may be true … but the feelings involved are *nothing* like the emotional feelings known to the human experience. The end game is much more of a feeling of DE-tachment … which do not involve human emotions … in fact … quite the opposite … but in the same Light this does not lead to being some cold-hearted, unfeeling, indifferent entity. This is one of the true paradoxes on the Path.

I couldn't of said it better myself