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25-06-2021, 06:53 AM
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Master
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[quote=ImthatIm]
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Originally Posted by sky123
You caught that one right away.
Your Qi is flowing good today.
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Our Deity has broad shoulders
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25-06-2021, 08:55 PM
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Zhuangzi believed that all beings are equal
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we are all the same, but some make beautiful fireworks out of of a powdered mixture of saltpeter, sulfur, and charcoal and some make bullets.
we are different in what we do with what we have, but what we are is the same.
we all have different experiences, different circumstances, different conditioning, but we all have experiences, circumstances, and conditioning, so in that, we are all the same.
so the path is the same for all of us and the goal. take what we have and are, and make something positive and good with it.
some may only have apples and some may have 26 different fruits, but the goal is the same, make something good and positive out of what you have and are.
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26-06-2021, 01:32 AM
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Master
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“Zhuangzi believed that all beings are equal”
“Oneness” seeing all beings as equal is about diversity not sameness.
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I dreamed I was a butterfly, flitting around in the sky; then I awoke.
Now I wonder: Am I a man who dreamt of being a butterfly, or am I a butterfly dreaming that I am a man?
Zhuangzi
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Man and Butterfly are equal in Spirit but not the same.
“Sameness” meaning "Oneness" - is Western conditioned mind thinking, as I understand it.
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26-06-2021, 09:58 PM
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Abodhisky
It is a beautiful and interesting Life when we can be the same yet unique and attempt to celebrate it all.
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27-06-2021, 12:32 AM
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Master
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Looking into this theme a bit deeper.
Imo. “Oneness” equals “Totality” - a sum of all its parts, which are all unique. (No pine-tree in the pine forest is the same ….)
All the parts are ‘things’, but ‘Totality’ cannot be said to be a thing.
Polarity isn’t in the sameness and the difference of things.
Polarity ….. the thing and no-thing.
The stillness – forever in motion.
The timeless – unfolding as time.
The Unborn – forever in birth & death cycle …
Oneness – as multiplicity
One can experience the unity of the Timeless and Time … “Eternity shining through the temporal” … which leads to Nonduality as unconditional love, that just IS, there being no giver nor receiver of it … because Nonduality is not a thing …
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Non-thought by itself doesn’t get rid off our ‘conditioning’.
If one’s awareness attention is conditioned to focus on ‘things’ (and their seeming opposites, the differences and the sameness's of them), it will do so with or without thoughts.
If one’s conditioning is more in observing the no-thing manifesting (through thing / no-thing polarity), it will also do with or without thoughts.
If that makes sense.
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27-06-2021, 06:13 AM
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Master
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Abodhisky
It is a beautiful and interesting Life when we can be the same yet unique and attempt to celebrate it all.
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Let's all join in the 'Same Dance' with our individual footsteps.
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27-06-2021, 07:09 AM
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Let's all join in the 'Same Dance' with our individual footsteps.
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To what tune?
Where is the tune?
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27-06-2021, 07:39 AM
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Master
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Originally Posted by sentient
To what tune?
Where is the tune?
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The sounds of the Cosmos would be nice
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27-06-2021, 09:05 AM
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The sounds of the Cosmos would be nice
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Fair enough
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27-06-2021, 01:08 PM
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Sky123
It’s a Cosmic Wonder
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