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Old 20-11-2020, 04:22 PM
kralaro kralaro is offline
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Loving God is the only proper use of: free-will / lack of God's guidance

Want to make your/others' life(s) better? You don't need free-will for that. God can give proper guidance for that.
Same goes for being good servant to God.
God can control you, theoretically, to make you do these things properly.

I had for long time sincerely wanted God's guidance that what does God want me to do in my life; made tries to get this guidance; but i didn't get it.
Then my goal became to know through direct-experience (enlightenment) that how i can best serve all persons / what's the best service i can do; but God didn't guide me to help me with my logical goal.
Only proper reason i see for lack of God's guidance and for existence of free will is that God wants me to love him.
Imagine having full control over your lover to make them love you, or guiding your lover on how to love you, how frustrating is that! - Love doesn't work like that.

My logic says: God wants me/us to love him; but my deeper/intuitive logic says: Loving God is the only proper use of free-will / lack of God's guidance.
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Old 20-11-2020, 06:29 PM
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My logic says: God wants me/us to love him;
but my deeper/intuitive logic says: Loving God is the only proper use of free-will ......
Well, you'll get no argument here!!! ❤️







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Old 21-11-2020, 02:22 AM
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This lack of guidance...remember God loves silence....He feels welcomed.
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Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
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Old 21-11-2020, 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by kralaro
Want to make your/others' life(s) better? You don't need free-will for that. God can give proper guidance for that.
Same goes for being good servant to God.
God can control you, theoretically, to make you do these things properly.

I had for long time sincerely wanted God's guidance that what does God want me to do in my life; made tries to get this guidance; but i didn't get it.
Then my goal became to know through direct-experience (enlightenment) that how i can best serve all persons / what's the best service i can do; but God didn't guide me to help me with my logical goal.
Only proper reason i see for lack of God's guidance and for existence of free will is that God wants me to love him.
Imagine having full control over your lover to make them love you, or guiding your lover on how to love you, how frustrating is that! - Love doesn't work like that.

My logic says: God wants me/us to love him; but my deeper/intuitive logic says: Loving God is the only proper use of free-will / lack of God's guidance.
You receive guidance all the time, you just aren't aware of it. Some of your thoughts and impulses are actually guidance.

To consciously receive guidance you have to open a two-way connection using prayer, meditation, self-hypnosis, ...

You can't identify true guidance through an emotional or intellectual approach. For the beginning intuition might help, but you need a direct connection.
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Old 21-11-2020, 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by kralaro
Want to make your/others' life(s) better? You don't need free-will for that. God can give proper guidance for that.
Same goes for being good servant to God.
God can control you, theoretically, to make you do these things properly.

I had for long time sincerely wanted God's guidance that what does God want me to do in my life; made tries to get this guidance; but i didn't get it.
Then my goal became to know through direct-experience (enlightenment) that how i can best serve all persons / what's the best service i can do; but God didn't guide me to help me with my logical goal.
Only proper reason i see for lack of God's guidance and for existence of free will is that God wants me to love him.
Imagine having full control over your lover to make them love you, or guiding your lover on how to love you, how frustrating is that! - Love doesn't work like that.

My logic says: God wants me/us to love him; but my deeper/intuitive logic says: Loving God is the only proper use of free-will / lack of God's guidance.
And we are all God.

Think about that.
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Old 21-11-2020, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by kralaro
Want to make your/others' life(s) better? You don't need free-will for that. God can give proper guidance for that.
Same goes for being good servant to God.
God can control you, theoretically, to make you do these things properly.

I had for long time sincerely wanted God's guidance that what does God want me to do in my life; made tries to get this guidance; but i didn't get it.
Then my goal became to know through direct-experience (enlightenment) that how i can best serve all persons / what's the best service i can do; but God didn't guide me to help me with my logical goal.
Only proper reason i see for lack of God's guidance and for existence of free will is that God wants me to love him.
Imagine having full control over your lover to make them love you, or guiding your lover on how to love you, how frustrating is that! - Love doesn't work like that.

My logic says: God wants me/us to love him; but my deeper/intuitive logic says: Loving God is the only proper use of free-will / lack of God's guidance.

Who is god to you, and if Yahweh, have you looked at his genocidal ways and the ways of his homophobic and misogynous religions?

Do you see Yahweh as a good moral teacher?

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DL
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Old 21-11-2020, 05:58 PM
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You receive guidance all the time, you just aren't aware of it. Some of your thoughts and impulses are actually guidance.

To consciously receive guidance you have to open a two-way connection using prayer, meditation, self-hypnosis, ...

You can't identify true guidance through an emotional or intellectual approach. For the beginning intuition might help, but you need a direct connection.

A connection with one of the vile god's in the mainstream religions, like Yahweh, may not be what he wants, if good morals are what he is trying to learn.

Regards
DL
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Old 21-11-2020, 07:08 PM
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Soul Seeker, I think you'll find more
Yahweh folks in Judaism and Christianity. Just sayin.
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Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru
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Old 21-11-2020, 08:20 PM
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Soul Seeker, I think you'll find more
Yahweh folks in Judaism and Christianity. Just sayin.

The Apostles creed and belief in Jesus should include nearly all the plethora of Christian and Abrahamic denominations, including Islam.

You may be correct for most Christians have discarded Yahweh for his slightly less genocidal son and thus break the first commandment.

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Old 21-11-2020, 08:24 PM
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Want to make your/others' life(s) better? You don't need free-will for that. God can give proper guidance for that.
Same goes for being good servant to God.
God can control you, theoretically, to make you do these things properly.

I had for long time sincerely wanted God's guidance that what does God want me to do in my life; made tries to get this guidance; but i didn't get it.
Then my goal became to know through direct-experience (enlightenment) that how i can best serve all persons / what's the best service i can do; but God didn't guide me to help me with my logical goal.
Only proper reason i see for lack of God's guidance and for existence of free will is that God wants me to love him.
Imagine having full control over your lover to make them love you, or guiding your lover on how to love you, how frustrating is that! - Love doesn't work like that.

My logic says: God wants me/us to love him; but my deeper/intuitive logic says: Loving God is the only proper use of free-will / lack of God's guidance.




Control is the way of the dark side.
I hope you know what you are doing.
Perhaps you do!
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