Organ donor

[Redchic12]

Was thinking about organ donors today and was just wondering if anybody knows or read anything about it from a spiritual point of view? Should we or shouldn’t we.

[iamthat]

I have not read anything about organ donation in spiritual literature, but I would be reluctant to donate or receive any organs.

Mainly because any organs received would still have the aura of the previous owner, which makes it a bit of a lottery.

And any organs donated by me would still have my aura which would then become mixed with the aura of the recipient. I am not sure if I would want this.

Peace

[Altair]

Originally Posted by iamthat

Mainly because any organs received would still have the aura of the previous owner, which makes it a bit of a lottery.

This word reminds me of another topic, in which a minority among altruistic people ended up with health issues, and where it is not understood why they develop these issues.
The ethics there and here feel somewhat familiar. It's difficult to openly navigate, as an opt-out choice could easily be viewed as insensitive and egotistical. Should someone just be altruistic or decide to guard and lord over their own body and/or choice?

Donating organs to those you're on good terms with sounds reasonable enough, perhaps leading to better results. How would things be if all organ donations, vaccines, and medicine were tailored to the person in question? If our entire body could be mapped, and our relationships carefully analysed, then better matches could be made.

And what is ''death'' anyway, and when does ''clinical death'' actually mean ''gone and no longer in this world''?

[iamthat]

Originally Posted by Altair

Donating organs to those you're on good terms with sounds reasonable enough, perhaps leading to better results. How would things be if all organ donations, vaccines, and medicine were tailored to the person in question? If our entire body could be mapped, and our relationships carefully analysed, then better matches could be made.

A fine idea, but I get the impression that donated organs are in very short supply. If the available choices are very limited then someone could wait a long time for the ideal match.

Originally Posted by Altair

And what is ''death'' anyway, and when does ''clinical death'' actually mean ''gone and no longer in this world''?

A good question. Resorting to Wikipedia:

Clinical death is the medical term for cessation of blood circulation and breathing, the two criteria necessary to sustain the lives of human beings and of many other organisms. It occurs when the heart stops beating in a regular rhythm, a condition called cardiac arrest.

But elsewhere we read that clinical death is:

death as judged by the medical observation of cessation of vital functions. It is typically identified with the cessation of heartbeat and respiration, though modern resuscitation methods and life-support systems have required the introduction of the alternative concept of brain death.

Peace

[Mora321]

Organs have an elemental intelligence at least and may have connected a higher intelligence.

There are accounts of a transplant radically changing the recipients preferences - e.g. changing from reading Mills and Boon to reading 19th century Russian authors

[Miss Hepburn]

I have not read any spiritual lit, either.
I offered a kidney a few months ago to an old friend --I was not a match.

[Unseeking Seeker]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

I have not read any spiritual lit, either.
I offered a kidney a few months ago to an old friend --I was not a match.

Bravo! I mean it

[Altair]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...home-rcna68936

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw39...l=ThanatosTVEN

[Altair]

Read a story (in Dutch) about a man who was in a coma. He received the ''clinically dead'' label and was apparently dead. But oh wait, he was really just dead for a week! Family was asked if organs could be harvested, they refused. Man woke up a week later and went on to live on for another 24 years.

https://www.medicaldaily.com/ny-hosp...-medical-staff

https://nos.nl/artikel/2230751-jonge...nen-te-doneren

As a side note, there are examples where supposed 'dead' and 'not aware' people are actually aware, can hear what is going on and feel touch, but can't respond most of the time. This makes it all the more important to stay close to these people, talk to them, and assume they can hear and feel you. It might just save their lives!

[Altair]

Experience of another man, in 2001;

''My girlfriend was told that I would not wake up and that I had become a houseplant. As it turned out, it only took time for the massive brain pressure from the infection to heal, which had eaten away at my brain and made it inactive. It took a lot of time, I was in hospital for a total of three months, but because I had a NO on my donor codicil, the treatment was continued.

If there had been a YES there, I would have automatically become an organ donor because of that houseplant diagnosis and my organs would have been removed, during the most vulnerable period of my life! When I couldn't reach anyone anymore, or speak for myself.''