What if the Bible didn't exist?

[Granny Flats]

Would you still believe?

[sky]

Originally Posted by Granny Flats

Would you still believe?

Believe in what ?

[inavalan]

We all have our individual beliefs: conscious (assumptions) and unconscious (truths). They create the reality we perceive.

The Bible is a symbolical description of the known and the unknown realities, for each one of us to interpret it. There are many other such attempts that we can choose from.

The difficulty isn't in the accuracy of any source, but in our ability to interpret its symbolism, in our ability to minimize the distortions inherently introduced by our beliefs.

[Lynn]

Hello

If one is to look at history of the past it seems that mankind has always had a belief in something or some form of a God (god) or other spiritual symbol in some sort of way.

If there was no bible then I feel we would still have had something that was the more popular rule of thumb we followed along with.

What I do wonder would the world be at times without Christianity or other major forms of Religion or organized faith ?

We do so need that "something" that bonds us to the Universe and Divine.

Wonder where all that honestly originated from or how it came to be at times.

Lynn

[inavalan]

Originally Posted by Lynn

...

We do so need that "something" that bonds us to the Universe and Divine.

Wonder where all that honestly originated from or how it came to be at times.

Lynn

I believe that we all get (spiritual) telepathic knowledge and guidance, from the moment we join the womb, until we pass over. We get most of it unconsciously, and in our sleep.

That's how humans learn the most.

[OmniRedVT]

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It was-It is-We are!Take care and God bless the blessed!Absolutely no twisted parallels!Absolutely Straight Forward!Gary V. Giardina!Isn't the question when one finds obvious New Testament discrepencies between Matthew Mark Luke and John why did God allow its foibles?The things some would dismiss or suggest weren't mutually witnessed merely prove they scattered after Golgotha!Additionally there's a few things amongst John's recorded words that prove what is amongst his words and that is the Book was written from his notes and his followers insist he stands with everything he wrote .Notice the temple clearing story is not near where the Synoptics put it.John's puts it at the beginning and of course the synoptics put it near the end. Proving it got sequentially shuffled before they went through his writings .Take care and God bless the blessed!Absolutely no twisted parallels!
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[Granny Flats]

Originally Posted by inavalan

We all have our individual beliefs: conscious (assumptions) and unconscious (truths). They create the reality we perceive.

The Bible is a symbolical description of the known and the unknown realities, for each one of us to interpret it. There are many other such attempts that we can choose from.

The difficulty isn't in the accuracy of any source, but in our ability to interpret its symbolism, in our ability to minimize the distortions inherently introduced by our beliefs.

In a nut shell what you are saying is "seek the truth". Why would we seek anything else?

[Granny Flats]

Originally Posted by Lynn

Hello
What I do wonder would the world be at times without Christianity or other major forms of Religion or organized faith ?

I ask myself that same question several times a day.

I assume you are familiar with our history?
For one, we would be 1000 years ahead technological than where we are now. Since so many of our educated were tortured and burned alive by the christians it makes you wonder where we would be by now if they had lived. In fact so many educated people were slaughtered by the christian hoards they threw us into the dark ages where millions more perished from starvation and disease. 2/3 of your ancestors were slaughtered by the church. Many of the old historic churches still have dungeons and torture chambers beneath them. (That is why ISIS is using the old churches to set up camp and torture people, everything they need is there already). Entire civilizations such as the Inca's, the Aztecs, probably the Mayan were wiped from the face of the earth to rob them of their wealth and land. The American Indians got off easy. In fact, the closest thing to hell humans have ever seen was the christian hoards raping, torturing and burning while conquering the known world through violence, death and destruction. The christian hoards have slaughtered more people than all modern wars combined. But the worst of it was the destruction of ancient artifacts, libraries and written records telling us of our true history so that they might promote their own version. The victors write the history books.
I always wonder where we would be without it.

[inavalan]

Originally Posted by Granny Flats

In a nut shell what you are saying is "seek the truth". Why would we seek anything else?

No. I'm not saying "seek the truth".

I'm saying: "learn", "grow up", "evolve". As Jack said in that movie ... "you can't handle truth!". Surely, here the connotation is different: you need to be able to handle the truth. Think of a first-grader who is presented with some truth like "how a car is driven", "what a logarithm is", "how babies are made", ...

"Seeking the truth" could be quite detrimental to one's progress when he doesn't know what he's doing. It could be worse than a waste of time.

Besides, if you don't know how to see through the filter of your beliefs, you can't see the truth.

[Maisy]

Originally Posted by Granny Flats

In a nut shell what you are saying is "seek the truth". Why would we seek anything else?

I think most are not seeking truth, they are seeking pleasure. I think the "highest" pleasure is in being a kind and loving giving person who loves and forgives all. The best religions try to point us to being better people and to find pleasure in the highest most unselfish ways.

I think "seek the truth" is included in seeking pleasure as well because the greatest truth is we are all connected to each other and one family. Everyone should love and take care of each other because we are all one in my view.