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Old 06-03-2023, 10:13 PM
MAYA EL
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What about the birds and the bees and the trees and the tulips, the elephants and the porpoises?

Four people are surrounding an aquarium looking at a goldfish swimming.
I'm only counting humans because we are self aware I don't think a bird brain is complex enough to be considered to be its own reality
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Old 07-03-2023, 03:00 AM
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As I understand these, every gestalt of consciousness is self-aware. The human self-awareness isn't the only self-awareness.
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Old 09-03-2023, 07:41 AM
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As I understand these, every gestalt of consciousness is self-aware. The human self-awareness isn't the only self-awareness.
Awareness, whether in the form of self-reflection or pure objectivity is, on all levels, the essence of life. No awareness = no life.
Awareness/Consciousness is all there is, it spreads its wings over everything there is and takes on shapes, forms, tones, colours, tastes and a host of other attributes.
We, and all life forms are all feedback posts, contributing to the evolution of the whole in its striving to reach completion.
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The constantly promoted belief (induced by religions) that we are born to be good and obey (in order to enter heaven) is a tragic error in the concept of the universe's plan and an insult to mankind's intellect.

'A clear conscience is the sure sign of a bad memory'
- Mark Twain.
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Old 09-03-2023, 09:32 PM
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Awareness/Consciousness is all there is, it spreads its wings over everything there is and takes on shapes, forms, tones, colours, tastes and a host of other attributes.
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"I think that tastes, odors, colors, and so on ... reside in consciousness. Hence if the living creature were removed, all these qualities would be wiped away and annihilated."

— GALILEO GALILEI

To me, "consciousness" is the fabric of reality; everything is consciousness, and some of it chose to experience physical-reality. "Self-awareness" is knowing that you individually exist. "Awareness" is knowing about something.
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Old 10-03-2023, 04:22 AM
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"I think that tastes, odors, colors, and so on ... reside in consciousness. Hence if the living creature were removed, all these qualities would be wiped away and annihilated." — GALILEO GALILEI
To me, "consciousness" is the fabric of reality; everything is consciousness, and some of it chose to experience physical-reality. "Self-awareness" is knowing that you individually exist. "Awareness" is knowing about something.
Then what is consciousness according to you?
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Old 10-03-2023, 06:46 PM
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Consciousness is surrounding us. All living things are consciousness trapped in a shell.This gives us a sense of separation, (In my opinion).
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Old 12-03-2023, 11:05 AM
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Consciousness is surrounding us. All living things are consciousness trapped in a shell.This gives us a sense of separation, (In my opinion).
Then that's not consciousness because consciousness is when something is self aware so is something that is specifically found in highly intelligent beings and most definitely not found in in adamant objects
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Old 12-03-2023, 11:37 AM
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Ever heard of The God Consciousness Maya El,Each of us is a part of god, gods consciousness is all around us.
No way do I refer to adamant objects.(Or do you think of God as an old man with a Grey Beard sitting on a cloud playing a harp?)
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Old 14-03-2023, 04:35 AM
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Ever heard of The God Consciousness Maya El,Each of us is a part of god, gods consciousness is all around us.
No way do I refer to adamant objects.(Or do you think of God as an old man with a Grey Beard sitting on a cloud playing a harp?)

I am aware of the god consciousness CONCEPT but it is riddled with issues but I digress and no I don't think there is a sky daddy I think that the concept of a sky daddy was made originally as a story figure used for explaining an internal process because when explaining something metaphysical to a person that hasn't experienced the thing your trying to tell them about we often times will use an analogy that uses things in the real world that the person has probably seen and knows about and use those to then relate the metaphysical "thing" to the common physical "thing" so that hopefully the person that we are telling the story to will hopefully see the similarity and put 2 and 2 together and finally get what we're talking about internally

But unfortunately after one of the many great resets that seem to take place so often on this planet this vital bit of knowledge was lost and literal minded people detached from their inner self found these religions and read them to be literal and at face value and so the misunderstanding has continued till today.
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Old 14-03-2023, 07:33 AM
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Maya El, well written. We can agree on that.
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