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Old 23-06-2021, 09:01 PM
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You say well that returning to reality is inevitable. No spirit of truth confines all of us to illusion and hell as you do in use of "we." For the spirit of truth knows full well that we are all of God.

If we are here, then we are confined to illusion. Eternity is real, not this. If you don't know for certain then you don't know at all.
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Old 25-06-2021, 02:53 PM
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If we are here, then we are confined to illusion. Eternity is real, not this. If you don't know for certain then you don't know at all.
Your confinement is voluntary.
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Old 29-06-2021, 12:50 AM
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Your confinement is voluntary.
Yes, but that goes for everyone. I'm not exactly sure what your opposing view is as to me you seem to just be saying the same thing I am but framing it as an opposing view. Do you believe you are not confined to an illusion right now? If so it's just a belief, if you weren't confined you wouldn't be here typing. And yes all confinement, everything negative, all of hell.. is self inflicted. The problem is many people believe that they can go to Heaven while still within their confinements but that's not how things work. The Truth is not human and if you see yourself as human before death or after then you are not within Truth.

It is the confinement, your own confinement that keeps you from Heaven.. not death. In Heaven there is no death because it is simply the reality behind our illusions of physicality.

The only way to become a prophet is to become a saint.
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Old 10-07-2021, 02:22 PM
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You say well that returning to reality is inevitable. No spirit of truth confines all of us to illusion and hell as you do in use of "we." For the spirit of truth knows full well that we are all of God.

Yes, but many people are not aware of it. Many are not aware of Jesus. It is the predator /prey situation and the survival instinct for them, and this is the only reality.
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Old 10-07-2021, 03:12 PM
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Yes, but many people are not aware of it.

We cannot teach realization, but for those searching for the truth, we stand as a bright light. We hold at bay any attempt to ensnare others in a spirit of disempowerment and fear.
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Old 10-07-2021, 07:43 PM
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We cannot teach realization, but for those searching for the truth, we stand as a bright light. We hold at bay any attempt to ensnare others in a spirit of disempowerment and fear.

Please.
Regarding crime and gangs? Etc?

Well, I can attempt to do so by speaking the Truth.
The Wachowski's have gone a long way with it but the "survival Instinct" is why the devil is called, "the god of this world."
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Old 11-07-2021, 08:49 AM
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We cannot teach realization, but for those searching for the truth, we stand as a bright light. We hold at bay any attempt to ensnare others in a spirit of disempowerment and fear.
Well said
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Old 11-07-2021, 08:53 AM
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but the "survival Instinct" is why the devil is called, "the god of this world."
Why would anyone elevate the ' Devil ' to the God of this world ? Our thoughts become our reality comes to mind.
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Old 11-07-2021, 06:18 PM
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Why would anyone elevate the ' Devil ' to the God of this world ?

You really don't know why or is this a rhetorical question?
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Old 11-07-2021, 06:25 PM
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Why would anyone elevate the ' Devil ' to the God of this world ? Our thoughts become our reality comes to mind.

Why not ask Paul? He is the chap that made that statement.
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