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Old 21-08-2023, 06:04 PM
iamthat iamthat is offline
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I am personally convinced that I have neither soul or spirit. Whatever they might be.
So who is this "I" who is personally convinced that you have neither soul nor spirit?

What is the nature of the Consciousness which gazes out of your eyes?

If we do not know the nature of the "I" and the nature of Consciousness then can we really say that we know anything?

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Old 21-08-2023, 06:53 PM
lord arcturus of 88 lord arcturus of 88 is offline
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I tend to think souls pre-existed prior to being "breathed into" a physical body by God.

The thought of "not fitting in here" on earth and the sense that Heaven is "returning home" leads me to this.
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Old 25-08-2023, 07:34 AM
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So who is this "I" who is personally convinced that you have neither soul nor spirit?

What is the nature of the Consciousness which gazes out of your eyes?

If we do not know the nature of the "I" and the nature of Consciousness then can we really say that we know anything?

Peace

The 'I' arises at the moment of birth. The 5 senses 'pinge' directly from the contact they have with the 'outside' world. This gives the illusion of an I. This feedback continues until the senses cease to function - sleep/death.
When we no longer can rely on any sort of feedback we revert into our place in the universal mind. Evolution is an outward sign of the processes taking place in order that the universe can reflect upon itself.
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The constantly promoted belief (induced by religions) that we are born to be good and obey (in order to enter heaven) is a tragic error in the concept of the universe's plan and an insult to mankind's intellect.

'A clear conscience is the sure sign of a bad memory'
- Mark Twain.
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