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Old 20-10-2019, 04:51 PM
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Consciousness, a Quantum Physics Perspective

It's a John Hagelin lecture at Stanford and it's on YouTube. Here's a brief description.

"Renowned quantum physicist, John Hagelin (PhD, Harvard), presents the thesis that consciousness is a unified field that contains nature's programming code and transcending through meditation is a pathway to hack / access consciousness."

It's a long watch, about 1 1/4 hours, but in my opinion well worth the watch.
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Old 21-10-2019, 12:52 PM
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Thank you for this. I love watching physics lectures and will watch this one tonight. I've been looking for someone to acknowledge the connection, if the lecture is anything like the description :)

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Old 21-10-2019, 01:21 PM
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Thank you for this. I love watching physics lectures and will watch this one tonight. I've been looking for someone to acknowledge the connection, if the lecture is anything like the description :)

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I don't think you'll be disappointed.

Another good one is "The Primacy of Consciousness - Peter Russell - Full Version"

"Peter Russell proposes that mind is more fundamental than matter. He explores the problems science has explaining consciousness and argues that consciousness is not created by the brain, but is inherent in all beings."
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Old 21-10-2019, 04:57 PM
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Color .Space( Time *) i (* Time )Space.....

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JustASimpleGuy--"Peter Russell proposes that mind is more fundamental than matter. He explores the problems science has explaining consciousness and argues that consciousness is not created by the brain, but is inherent in all beings."


....Space( Time *) i (* Time )Space....

Metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts and ego, are a resultant of occupied space interactions/interference and not the other way around.

Metaphysical-1 is concepts of Space not an actual space ergo not an occupied space phenomena.

Metaphysical-3 Gravity ( ) { occupied space }, and

Metaphysical-4 Dark Energy )( { occupied space }, have not been quantified nor quantised yet we know of their occupied space existence indirectly via their effects on other occupied space phenomena.

This latter above is not true of Metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concepts.

i = ego ergo metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concept and is outside{ beyond/meta } the bisected/cross-section torus I have presented above and here below.

....Space( Time *) i (* Time )Space....
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Old 22-10-2019, 11:02 AM
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....Space( Time *) i (* Time )Space....

Metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts and ego, are a resultant of occupied space interactions/interference and not the other way around.

Metaphysical-1 is concepts of Space not an actual space ergo not an occupied space phenomena.

Metaphysical-3 Gravity ( ) { occupied space }, and

Metaphysical-4 Dark Energy )( { occupied space }, have not been quantified nor quantised yet we know of their occupied space existence indirectly via their effects on other occupied space phenomena.

This latter above is not true of Metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concepts.

i = ego ergo metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concept and is outside{ beyond/meta } the bisected/cross-section torus I have presented above and here below.

....Space( Time *) i (* Time )Space....

That's way above my pay grade.

You'll have to take that up with Mr. Russell or Mr. Hagelin.
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Old 22-10-2019, 11:46 AM
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If QP is right the the 'Big Bang' would have to have been observed by 'a consciousness carrier' otherwise it would not have taken place.
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Old 22-10-2019, 02:35 PM
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Color .Space( Time *) i (* Time )Space.....

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That's way above my pay grade.

Pathways of rational, logical common sense, no more, no less.

.............Space( Time *) i (* Time )Space............

A big bang is just one of ocurrence of perhaps an infinite set i.e the big bang was not the creation of an eternally existent, occupied spaceUniversenor can a big crunch be the destruction of occupied space Universe.

There exists no cosmic source{ @ }, only local ignorance { *^* }.

https://www.sciencealert.com/penrose...clic-cosmology

'No the train wont stop rolling, no it wont slow down'....Ian Anderson Locomotive Breath LINK

----\/\/\/\/----> Arrow-of-Time { occupied space } is one way and that means we cannot return to the womb.

Consciousness at minimum is two, with line{s}-of-relationship adjoining the two (o)(o) ergo otherness and awareness that is at minimum, positive shaped geodesic Gravity and negative shaped geodesic Dark Energy.

I.e geometrically diametric opposite phenomena, that, we identify as occupied Space ( )( )
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Old 24-10-2019, 03:25 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBQ8pC5mTII

Thanks
I sure didn't need quantum physics to know everything is conscious, tho!
Neither does anyone else that has done deep meditation...but the left brainers love proof.
God made them, too - I must remember.

I'm really glad you joined here, Justasimpleguy.
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Old 24-10-2019, 03:47 PM
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I'm really glad you joined here, Justasimpleguy.

Thanks, and so Am I. This is a great venue for expressing all the stuff that's now bouncing around inside my skull.

I've been researching consciousness in earnest and as my understanding permit since roughly 2000, and looking at it from as many perspectives as possible, even from the skeptics' point of view.

Dr. Hagelin is pretty big into the TM movement and being he's a physicist of some renown I respect his take. Plus he's an entertaining speaker. He comes across as authentic too.

He presents an interesting symmetry between physics and consciousness and I'd love to hear his take on the liar.
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