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Old 29-03-2021, 11:23 PM
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In fact divine intimacy brings greater joy and bliss than any other material desire fulfilled.

Material desires satisfied only nurtures more desires, while desire for the Divine brings to an end all other desires for transitory pleasures.

It's so frustrating when we know this, and yet continue to seek satisfaction from things that have little-to-no capacity to provide any meaningful satisfaction.

I don't recall exactly how it goes, but there was a poem where Kabir calls us liars, anyone who would turn to God with words like, "You are the most beautiful, most adorable and worthy of worship" and then, in the next breath, focus all concerns on the world.

But then, there are also those who believe our worldly desires are God's own desires, expressed through us.

Also, it's not like suppressing would help anything. I'm hoping that, by being more mindful of desires and thinking it through instead of just reacting, it might help develop better discrimination, but it's so easy for the mind to get hung up on daft things.
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Old 31-03-2021, 08:06 AM
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But keep asking God every now and then turns into routine commerce/business / give and take mercenary affair . This again is not bad but it is not great/sublime either . Because the God's primary dealings are out of love without any material considerations and He loves His child also appreciate His ways of living and adopts it joyfully.
Very true. Your point reminds me of that devotee (I don't recall his name, it's been a while since I heard the story) of Chaitanya's, who refused to accept a boon, saying something like, "I won't barter my love for worldly trinkets." After being talked into asking for something, all he wanted was that Chaitanya should always remain in his life in a context similar to Krishna the butter thief.

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God being in-dwelling companion is privy to our thoughts . So even if we dont formally ask anything from God , God knows/reads /understands us (and our communications/vibrations ) and then determines our actual nature of dealing with Him.
I absolutely agree, but at the same time, I think speaking out loud to God is something everyone should do, or at least try, sometimes. It's probably not that God needs to hear you with ears or anything like that, I suspect it's related more to your willingness to appear crazy in the eyes of the world. But there really is something to it.
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Old 31-03-2021, 06:20 PM
HITESH SHAH HITESH SHAH is offline
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Very true. Your point reminds me of that devotee (I don't recall his name, it's been a while since I heard the story) of Chaitanya's, who refused to accept a boon, saying something like, "I won't barter my love for worldly trinkets." After being talked into asking for something, all he wanted was that Chaitanya should always remain in his life in a context similar to Krishna the butter thief.
While worldly trinkets too has its value , Love for divine too is very precious to treasure and preserve. We can have divine touch even in our worldly pursuits by understanding , respecting and following their precept even if slowly .

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I absolutely agree, but at the same time, I think speaking out loud to God is something everyone should do, or at least try, sometimes. It's probably not that God needs to hear you with ears or anything like that, I suspect it's related more to your willingness to appear crazy in the eyes of the world. But there really is something to it.

Speaking out loud is definitely good from psychological/physiological perspective. My point was God's language is multi-faceted and He can understand all kinds of communication (spoken/unspoken/thought/written/ unwritten /acted upon/between the lines) and determine the real talk/thought/point of the seeker easily.
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Old 09-04-2021, 09:36 AM
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It's so frustrating when we know this, and yet continue to seek satisfaction from things that have little-to-no capacity to provide any meaningful satisfaction.

I don't recall exactly how it goes, but there was a poem where Kabir calls us liars, anyone who would turn to God with words like, "You are the most beautiful, most adorable and worthy of worship" and then, in the next breath, focus all concerns on the world.

But then, there are also those who believe our worldly desires are God's own desires, expressed through us.

Also, it's not like suppressing would help anything. I'm hoping that, by being more mindful of desires and thinking it through instead of just reacting, it might help develop better discrimination, but it's so easy for the mind to get hung up on daft things.

You can keep a regular diary or log to check your thought process by writing down events where you were reactionary. This can help you to be aware of your thoughts, emotions, reactions and keep a distance between yourself and them.

This distance will enable you to regulate yourself and be more intelligently responsive than blindly reactive.
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Old 10-04-2021, 03:53 AM
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I suspect it's related more to your willingness to appear crazy in the eyes of the world. But there really is something to it.

i suspect you are right, god might appreciate willingness to act against the sanction of the world
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