GOSPEL OF THOMAS (new translation)

[davidmartin]

Originally Posted by Soul Seeker

Yes.

Some say the only good Christians because of our honest judgements against Yahweh.

Christians have put their salvation above their moral actions and that is why they plan on profiting from the punishment of the innocent instead of themselves, who deserve it.

That is likely also why they adore a genocidal moral monster.

Regards
DL

One of the things that outraged me was during WW1 a minister of God said of trench warfare the solders 'went in boys and came out men'
I found myself feeling the enemy wasn't God but the minister

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by davidmartin

One of the things that outraged me was during WW1 a minister of God said of trench warfare the solders 'went in boys and came out men'
I found myself feeling the enemy wasn't God but the minister

Strange is, you will not find that philosophy among Jesus' teachings. Those are the teachings of the 'other guy'.

[Altair]

Originally Posted by davidmartin

One of the things that outraged me was during WW1 a minister of God said of trench warfare the solders 'went in boys and came out men'
I found myself feeling the enemy wasn't God but the minister

I'm not sure. What would you have done? Make them feel like boys instead?

Originally Posted by davidmartin

One of the things that outraged me was during WW1 a minister of God said of trench warfare the solders 'went in boys and came out men'
I found myself feeling the enemy wasn't God but the minister

Propaganda is not confined to anyone or anything, I suspect, it's a play on human psychology and very, very effective on many I suspect.

[BigJohn]

The Gospel of Thomas was never canonized.

GOSPEL OF THOMAS

  VERSE 50

(50) Jesus said,

      
             If they say to you:
       ‘Where do you come from?’

                 say to them:
     ‘We have come from the light,
  the place where the light has come
             into being by itself,
         has established itself and
       has appeared in their image.’

              If they say to you:
                   ‘Is it you?’

                       say:
            ‘We are its children,
         and we are the elect of
             the living Father.’

              If they ask you:
    ‘What is the sign of your Father
                among you?’

                say to them:
         ‘It is motion and rest.’"



            

Originally Posted by davidmartin

One of the things that outraged me was during WW1 a minister of God said of trench warfare the solders 'went in boys and came out men'
I found myself feeling the enemy wasn't God but the minister

Governments and religions have found many novel ways to reduce the population of unruly males.

Soldiers on all sides wore religious imagery.

Perhaps that is not surprising because there was no point in putting faith in man.

We just can't seem to change our thinking well.

Regards
DL

Originally Posted by janielee

Propaganda is not confined to anyone or anything, I suspect, it's a play on human psychology and very, very effective on many I suspect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6DfJVjEMlc&t=4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjRy29R4gP8

Regards
DL

Originally Posted by Altair

I'm not sure. What would you have done? Make them feel like boys instead?

That is what they were.

Not firewood.

Regards
DL

And very sad it was/is.

Jl

[BigJohn]

The Gospel of Thomas was never canonized.

GOSPEL OF THOMAS

  VERSE 49 & 50

(49) Jesus said,

      
 "Blessed are the solitary ones
       and the chosen ones.

 For you will find the Kingdom.


       For you came from it
and you will return there again."

           

(50) Jesus said,

      
             If they say to you:
       ‘Where do you come from?’

                 say to them:
     ‘We have come from the light,
  the place where the light has come
             into being by itself,
         has established itself and
       has appeared in their image.’

              If they say to you:
                   ‘Is it you?’

                       say:
            ‘We are its children,
         and we are the elect of
             the living Father.’

              If they ask you:
    ‘What is the sign of your Father
                among you?’

                say to them:
         ‘It is motion and rest.’"
            


Did you people notice, new words and thoughts were interjected in these two verses. One expression was "solitary ones and the chosen ones". What do you think the writer(s) were thinking about as to who were the 'solitary ones' and who are the 'chosen ones'?

Another expression is "For you came from it and you will return there again."
What do you think they were talking about?


Another expression is ‘We have come from the light, the place where the light has come into being by itself, has established itself and has appeared in their image.’
What does this expression really mean? And what is the 'image'?

There are other ideas that were introduced in these two scriptures. Can you find them and discuss them if you want.