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Old 23-05-2023, 12:59 PM
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5-23-23 …

The personal value of inductive reasoning comes from … when we wish to discover “Why does this keep on happening to me?” … or … “Why do I always react this way?” … or … etc. Keep an ongoing record of separate, specific instances and then later determine what the common thread is behind them. When anyone reacts to the specifics … the interaction or hidden thread behind them is often lost. Gather the variety of experiences and then determine what is behind all of them … or … find the bigger picture. What do they all have in common in spite of the specific person or experience that triggered the reaction. Look beyond that.

Lots of people may nod their head and say … “Yeah … yeah … sounds like too much trouble to me. I’m too busy … and besides … that sounds pretty silly.”

And the mysteries of life and our personal reactions to it … will continue.

Those that maintain and keep track of our personal issues via karmic implications know what prompts us to react in certain ways. Since they are not part of our own personal pattern and are able to see into our past to detect what has activated certain responses in the past … they can often use other people to confront us again … to see if we have learned. Again … it is not what happens to us that makes the difference … but how we react / what we do with them that matters. A schoolroom more often than not determines where each student is by testing them … and LIFE is good at tests. These “karmic delegations” can bring or clear various experiences in and out of our lives as easily as we might move a chess piece on the board. Actually … it is their job to do so.

LIFE doesn’t have to contend with beliefs … or lifetimes. Divine Spirit is solely teaching YoU how to live more harmoniously with IT … more in balance … by you changing your reaction to what happens … and not waiting for everyone else to change theirs before you will be content. Most all of us have heard of “records” kept on each of us … keeping track of all our incarnations on various levels … knowing that the only way to “graduate” is to upgrade the ethical / moral / values of ourselves so that the ups and downs in life do not throw us into tantrums, feuds, misleads, long-standing anguish, or irrational behavior. This is another facet of our learning more through “pain” than through pleasure. When unpleasantries happen … it behooves us to pay attention … plug it into the “inductive gatherings” list … and uncover the common thread.

You can never outlast or sidestep Life. You are not going to “beat” Life. And if 90% of your personal life is smooth-running and only 10% gives you grief in any way … not only are you fortunate … but the distressing experiences should stand out like a sore thumb. Pay attention … and listen to them.

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Old 24-05-2023, 01:02 PM
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5-24-23 …

The skirmish between the “outer” world of the senses and the “inner” world of causation is ever ongoing. The world within is cause … and the world without is effect. We cannot demand that the outer world of effect is changed without the inner world of effect changing first. There inner world brings the outer world experiences into expression. Please … please remember … what happens today is *not* necessarily brought about by something you inwardly set in motion any time soon. It can … and often does … go back lifetimes. This is the prime reason why “bad things happen to good people” … and why the converse also takes place.

Most people try to change the reactions or the effects experiences by working on the specific effects themselves … ie … stopping a habit by working on the habitual reactive behavior … and not on what causes it. This often simply changes one form of distress for another. To ease away from discordant effects … one must find the underlying cause … and this can only be found within … no matter how much the outer experience bothers you.

( We’re back to inductive reasoning, people. )

Unquestionably … most people find it excruciatingly difficult to accept responsibility for their current state of consciousness when it comes to uncovering that which offends … and doing anything about it. We’d rather just point an accusatory finger at something or someone else and let it go at that.

It will be back … and often … even worse … or more numerous.

Most feel safe in discussing mental and emotional stances they practice as long as they feel the discussion is pertaining to everyone else … and does not directly apply to themselves. When and if it becomes personal … that is when it is taken as offensive … oppositional, protective, habitual, out-of-scale measures are taken … and this is prime time to pay attention to what is causing the inner distress and the outer antagonism. Again … we learn more by pain than by pleasure.

One of the reasons why the negative emotional states carry such weight in our experiences is that the negative emotions are more powerful … more volatile … more domineering than the softer emotions of tolerance, forgiveness, kindness, patience, happiness, etc. Anger … is as inwardly powerful as an explosive … and when that is expressed on an experience … it sets deeper into our psychic make-up. That’s like pouring a gallon of gasoline on a fire rather than a tablespoon. One does not go out on a rampage while feeling kind and benevolent … they go out when they feel the opposite.

Once a negative stance is taken … very few sit to hear anything to the contrary … no explanations … no compromise … and certainly no considerate listening. These are clear signs that the response is not to your overall benefit and there is a “lesson” right in front of you … which will lead to greater understanding and bring growth in leniency and tolerance … let alone simply listening to the “other side” of the issue.

Behavior patterns … positive or negative … in others … will bring out responses in ourselves. Sometimes its a reaction because it’s not what we would have done ourselves … sometimes it’s a reaction to the proverbial Golden Rule … sometimes it’s because we realize that the other person has missed an opportunity to grow … sometimes we truly do not know the underlying “why” of it being done but react anyway … the list is exhaustive.

Listening … forgiveness ( both of Self and of anyone else ) … trying to understand the “lessons” involved for both parties … and the resulting tolerance … will carry one farther into the ways of harmony.

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Old 25-05-2023, 12:40 PM
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5-25-23 …

The Law of Attraction could easily be reworded to the Law of Magnetism. You draw to you that which you desire … although it may take time to manifest for any number of reasons. Intent and focus are determining factors … whether there are others involved in your “desire” is certainly another … it often takes “time” to manifest in the physical world because of the slowness of life here … karmic implications may draw or repel various experiences to you … even Spirit may deem an experience as not being in your best interest.

An opposite law … perhaps a Law of Repulsion … or dislike, aversion, loathing, even hatred … is alive and well in the world(s) of our experiences. What we emotionally push away or are offended by are drawn to us … ofttimes more quickly than anything else. Unpleasant experiences may clog up the day, week, month, year … or lifetime. Tolerance, forgiveness, and endurance are not easily won.

They are often drawn to you because you have allowed a reaction to take place … and Spirit fills it with similar triggers. Like attracts like. Again … karmic implications play a part. We can dismiss these all we wish … we can bury them … we can raise our fist against them … we can laugh them off. They will be back … in similar or camouflaged fashion … until we learn the positive attributes and values that will dismiss them in a truly detached way … without taking sides … through understanding of the lessons involved for all concerned.

There is a huge difference between simply thinking … and consciously directing your thoughts. Try to draw a distinction between the two practices. The undisciplined mind is more often than not allowed to ramble endlessly. To slow it down and direct its focus and intent is often a lesson in itself. There are preliminary steps to most everything. These are most effectively taken … inwardly … when the physical body is settled … and the focus is enhanced.

One works with the Universal Mind through the Law of Attraction … drawing to you your preferences … but through focused attention. In the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds much emphasis is kept on scattering the attention … constantly … in any direction … towards any pleasure or pain … as often as possible … and we happily cooperate by letting the mind skip along as a flat stone over water … and then we blame “mind as a tool” for it all. We are superb at finding excuses and justifications.

The Law of Attraction works either for OR against. I have never seen any discussion on any “Law of Repulsion” … but I assume there is somewhere. If not … there’s a subject one could write a book about and probably make some money at it. It is more routinely just not given a specific name and included as I did above … how the LOA works both for or against … and they let it go at that. The “against” part of that can easily be much more substantial in someone’s life than the “pro” side of it … all determined by what we need to face in our lives according to the lessons we need to learn.

The “harmony” and “balance” of LIFE are the determinants of these lessons. The groups necessary that keep track of our karmic implications are essential to simply keep us honest in our lessons. LIFE is the true teacher. LIFE’s assistants simply help maintain the database on each of us for all reverberations for and against.

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Old 26-05-2023, 12:43 PM
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5-26-23 …

The prime way of getting rid of anything is to put its opposite in its place. Lack of … is slowly replaced by adequacy and “more of” … until there is balance … and eventual detachment … with is simply becoming less dependent on them … not identifying oneself with the material and ones reactions to their presence or loss … giving up of ones affections for the material.

This does *not* mean to become an unfeeling zombie. I have said this before.

It simply means that you are not governed by the material … or later … the psychic or metaphysical … and you can stay balance on and within the middle path … allowing yourself to acknowledge both … but being manipulated, restricted, and controlled by neither. There is a “contentment” found when in this position … neither a pleasure or pain. It is a balance between the two.

A great error is often attempted when an individual simply wants to “get rid” of something. This often works directly against the individual because Life will fill a void with “something” … and that “something” is often not beneficial. To simply rid oneself of something forms a vacuum … and that *will* be filled … and so it is in your very best interest to fill it with something of your choice … namely … the opposite of the detrimental issue. Fill it with the beneficial approach of the troubling issue … and yes … chewing gum instead of smoking cigarettes does work … if for nothing else … the discipline of forming the new habit.

There is a universal law along these very lines … the only way to rid oneself of something undesirable is to focus on its opposite. Certainly … one can focus on a tangent … on a similar “undesirable” feature and probably draw that to you … and then you can try to find the opposite of that.

The bottom line … choose wisely … what you focus on … and what you choose as a possible replacement for anything. Focusing on the opposite of anything tends to neutralize it … balance it … allowing for greater harmony. Simply objecting to something does little good. The objectionable trait or experience can … and will … simply outlast you. Eventually … you will contend with it … and you can make it worse … you can spin a tangent off of it … you can replace something bad with something worse … or you can put in the effort and focus for its correction and neutralization.

The result of all of this is in direct proportion to the effort expended. If you have a life-long habit … it will not be replaced in a day or a week or a month. It will be on-going … perhaps even into the next lifetime for mastery. Try to make each project constructive … even by baby-steps. Again … try to make these projects not focused on power over anyone else … to control anyone or anything else. Detachment is learned by lessening the importance of it in your life. You do not let it rule you. You can thoroughly enjoy it … but you can let it go or do without it just as easily.

It is a middle path between dominant pain and heightened pleasure. Contentment softens the highs and lows of Life in these Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds.

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Old 29-05-2023, 01:10 PM
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5-29-23 …

“All paths lead to God.”

We’ve all heard it … most all of us follow it for many, many incarnations. It’s a perfect way to give up ones responsibility for discernment. We claim … “We don’t care … we’ll get there eventually … no matter what we do or study.”

Is it true?

Well … yes … and no … and yes.

It all depends on how much time one wishes to devote to the quest.

An example …

Pretend … you are standing right on the very tip of the Great Pyramid at Giza. Pretend there’s enough of a flat space on the tip for you to stand on. Your destiny … is New York City.

As you stand on the very tip of the pyramid … you turn to face directly North … 360 degrees … ( not 1 degree yet ) … straight up the compass.

Now your goal is to travel to New York and all paths lead to New York from the Great Pyramid … or so the saying goes … and they’d be right.

You will turn 1 degree to the east … and you will follow that longitude all the way around the globe … staying right on that 1 degree east compass reading. You will travel on that route … no more … no less … no deviation. You will come back to the tip and realize … I didn’t see New York. ( 1 degree east would still take you up through the Arctic regions. ) So now … you will turn one more degree to the east … 2 degrees east … and do it all again.

New York lies roughly west-northwest … from the Pyramid. That’s approximately 270 - 280 degrees around the compass … and you will get there … one degree of longitude at a time.

So … will you get there? Yes … eventually. You’ll just have to do it 270 - 280 times.

Will it be the quickest, most direct way? Not by any means.

Let’s complicate it a bit. Let’s just say … you are traveling on a specific longitude … and you stop … for a moment. Now you have another 360 degree choice to take off from there. If you were heading 1 degree east from the tip of the pyramid you would venture into the country of Turkey. LOTS of good stuff to see there … so you might step off your original course to explore.

( Sound familiar ? )

And then you stop on this new path … again … and see even *more* intriguing stuff to explore.

Tangents … detours … strayings … side-trips … call it what you will.

This … is what we do while traveling our path to Truth … or God. We accept any and all directions via society, culture, philosophies, religions, cults, metaphysics, scientists, whatever. We’ll grab hold of anything that offers promise. And we get off on endless tangents and hold to them out of ignorance or stubbornness … until our toes are bloody stubs.

We’ll take anything that sounds good … and … if you have forever … which we all do … it doesn’t make any difference what direction we travel … where we travel … how we travel … if we travel … we’ll get there. Just … keep going. We’ll get there. And we will spend who-knows-how-long on each one of the discovered tangents … off a tangent … off the original path.

If it took one million lifetimes to complete this journey … for the first 990 thousand lifetimes … you have little choice. ( Please try not to quibble over the actual number … it’s just to portray the concept. )

After that … choose wisely. Find a tour guide … and listen to him. Begin to recognize the selling points to the other options … because you’ve heard them before.

If … to you … it’s just another “Who cares … I’ve got time” … then enjoy your trip.

If … to you … it’s “Good Gosh I’ve been on this trip for-EV-er. Maybe I should pay a bit more attention” … then the tour guide(s) are more often than not right in front of you … unrecognized … and more often … shunned and despised … for reasons each ego will configure.

More tomorrow.

On we go.

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Old 30-05-2023, 01:04 PM
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5-30-23 …

The Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds are loaded with misleads and misdirections … tangents … side trips … all designed to complicate and confuse. Anyone can take up the fight of how “unfair” all this is for as long as they wish … the schoolroom will not change … because it works as a superb “sorting out” process. Over time … one learns to tell more quickly the branches ( tangents ) from the trunk ( straight path ) to Greater, Principled, Foundational, Original Truth.

“The Path” completely bottlenecks above the mental realms. If the original statement “All paths lead to God” were to be rewritten for more validity and honesty … it might read … “All paths lead to the mental realms.”

What blocks progress beyond the mental realms … is a massive Void … with is huge area that is not relative to anything else known in the worlds below. “Form” is left behind for an emptiness that few have truly experienced. There has been perspectives on what is “formless” in the worlds of the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds … yet to enter into it changes ones perspective immediately. A simple example might be … step from a position on Earth to where there is no air … and where there is no “solar system” or “space” to surround one either. There is … “nothing” … and you are there. Your physical body could not last long at all … and though this area is not “physical” per se … the retreat from it is just as quick.

The Pure God Worlds beyond are of such different “structure” and “organization” that description does little good … and the only prerequisite is to get the individual ready to face it and let that individual know that s/he will be taken care under the guidance and protection of a true, authentic Master … and that no harm will come to them … and to rely upon the prep work authored by an authentic Master to take this step. It is more than a protection of an “elite” or a “superior” area … it is more for the protection and ongoing balance of the individual. There is absolutely no point in taking one beyond where they are ready to go … and have their personal balance destroyed … which numerous individuals have done in the past having wandered beyond the boundaries of the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds by pure chance … and many … if not all … have ended up in mental facilities or become so unhinged that they are ostracized by society.

Many wish to say … as I myself has said in past lives … “ * I * can do it … * I’ll * be the one that can do this without such restrictions.”

Go for it. LIFE can out-wait you.

The Core Creator God … the Central Originating Point … if you will … that designed this entire Existence scenario … along with IT’s subordinate and supporting Assistants that help design and maintain this entire set-up … and lower still … tat set up and maintain the entire structure of the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds and its schoolroom design … if you believe you can “outwit” or “outsmart” or “sidestep” the “security” set up to maintain its own structure … then … again … have at it. Enjoy the adventure.

To take these steps makes one face those final dregs of ego / vanity. Mind and emotions are brought into balance … Soul Itself is recognized for what It is verses mind … and a greater level of humility must become a way of life … not as a weakness … but as a recognition and willingness to listen and do what must be done in order to take the steps involved.

Many have fought these latter steps … again … including myself. It is exhausting … and can last for lifetimes … and if there were other ways to make the individual actually face those last remnants of ego / vanity … those “ways” would be the design.

No one is simply “passed” on to the higher realms. One earns … every step.

One last yet critical aspect I wish to point out … the steps made into the Pure God Worlds ( generic term ) are made by Soul Itself and Soul alone. The mind does *not* come along for the ride. Mind cannot enter into the Pure God Worlds … by design … but one will instantly reclaim the mental aspects when they return to the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds to complete their current life here. Very few totally “give themselves up” and lose what they “are” as an individual. Your individuality remains intact … and useable … determined by where you “are” in your perspective. With practice … you view from Soul when “there” … and from mind when “here” … while giving the perspective from Soul the edge so that you will not slide back into detrimental habits … which can … and does … happen.

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Old 31-05-2023, 12:43 PM
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5-31-23 …

A long-standing step on the path for most everyone is the finding of others who believe as we do to give validity and assurance to our own beliefs. While in the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds the human state of consciousness prefers to be a social / communal animal. In these worlds … there is legitimacy in the old saying … “There is strength in numbers” … and oft-times you *do* need numbers to maintain your stance. There is nothing wrong with this … it is an approach to be used when and if it is needed.

But waiting for everyone else to agree with what you believe … to either feel better about what you believe or to acknowledge that everyone else “finally got it” … is more often than not a waste of your time. “Everyone else” will learn when it is made important enough for them to do so. Until then … they will believe as they wish.

There comes many times on the path when you must take your own individual stance … and life it … no matter what everyone else believes to be true. You must learn to hold your individual truth … no matter the opposition. This becomes more and more critical the farther you go on that path … and certainly is necessary when and if you begin to step beyond the traditional / conventional.

A common experiment during the early steps is to become a fanatic about your stance … an evangelist if you will … to declare your truth as being true via outward power and profession. Eventually … especially when that sometimes brings being ostracized from society and even worse … it becomes necessary to just maintain your beliefs quietly … and go about your life.

You discover that it makes little difference the often massive groups / entire societies … or single individuals … against you … opposing you … you personally know the way to greater balance and harmony and can detect the socio-cultural movements to conflict with humanity. … or you are willing to take the chance that the current stance is truly beneficial to you. These conflicting groups will always be around … sometimes … as now … growing in number and power. There only way to discover whether they will be beneficial to you is to try them … experience them … live from them for a time … and then determine their worth to you. Whether others find value in the same beliefs is up to them.

If you are fortunate enough to find a small group that believes along the same lines as you do … then enjoy their company … and live your life.

As far as any opposition goes … it doesn’t matter if the justifications they use are outright deceptive and clearly misleading … it makes “sense” to them. In today’s world … it doesn’t matter if others deceive … they are often the ones in power … or with the “greater voice” … and power is “worth” more in the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds than Truth is. Greater Truth more often than not simply allows the individual to contend with the lies / manipulations that are around them. One often learns to simply stay out of them.

Waiting for “everyone else” to catch up and agree with your stance so you can then feel better about your own stance is often a waste of your own time. Accept where you are … and move on.

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A common experiment during the early steps is to become a fanatic about your stance … an evangelist if you will … to declare your truth as being true via outward power and profession. Eventually … especially when that sometimes brings being ostracized from society and even worse … it becomes necessary to just maintain your beliefs quietly … and go about your life.

Waiting for “everyone else” to catch up and agree with your stance so you can then feel better about your own stance is often a waste of your own time. Accept where you are … and move on.
Zorkchop,

Thanks for another good posting. Some of what you describe is ego confirmation. If one falls into this trap it will build a false ceiling for spiritual progress. “Speak softly but carry a big stick” applies to maintaining beliefs quietly. For those of us that attempt this we must recognize that others also do this….and amongst those that do are individuals at a higher level than our own. I have some confidence at perceiving lower levels but definitely have my doubts that a lower level is capable of perceiving a higher level. The lesson to take away is that a good dose of humility is to our benefit…….
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Old 31-05-2023, 08:37 PM
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Thanks, Molearner … for some exceptional points.

I am constantly astounded at how many on the board … and certainly within the masses … are awaiting the “celestial global upliftment” … by whatever name is favored at the moment … so that they can hop on the bandwagon and enjoy the “golden age” of humanity for a time being … for however long it lasts … IF and when it comes as scheduled. In other words … let the world change so I don’t have to.

And you are exactly right … it is exceptionally difficult for a lower level of consciousness to perceive, know, or understand a level of consciousness above / beyond them. There are glimpses that can be had … and if a person uses those glimpses correctly … they can follow the nudges to gain in unfoldment. An easy example … an apprenticeship in a craft or career. The lower studies under someone who knows at least a bit more … and the lower can catch glimpses of “what it takes” to gain in ability.

Ego gets in the way of doing the same thing to gain in spirituality … and humility … the willingness to look again … to listen … to set the feuds and rejections aside and to learn anyway from those whom one has egoistically fought with because of mis-steps … is obviously a huge … huge … step … and it holds one back … or allows for forward movement.

How else is one to learn that level of courage, strength, forgiveness, tolerance, and of course … humility?

On we go.

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6-1-23 …

How many of the conventional teachings of the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds have to do with closing down the mind? Many of the teachings have their fingers pointed directly at ego and the mind as being the most despised facet of the human experience. How many lifetimes are devoted to stopping the mind, killing the ego, go find the thoughtless site and just drift for relief?

Mind itself is not the culprit.

The undisciplined mind is.

As an amusing example … let’s just say … we have a three-foot mylar balloon to blow up by mouth. We’ll be puffing away at this one for a while … may have to take a breather or two … or three … but we’ll get it done. We exhale every breath with the intent on expanding our balloon. All focus is there until it’s done … and … access is fairly assured. We have focused and put in the effort to complete the task.

With mind … thought plays the part of the exhaled breath. We might as well just “exhale” our thoughts out into the atmosphere … coupled with the accompanying emotions … and let these thoughts design what happens to us … our on-going lifetime.

This is exactly what we re doing … and … our thoughts and patterns and favored perspectives are often all over the place … heavily infused with what we do *not* like … on what is wrong with everyone else around us … on how our world is just a big mess … on the struggles and the losses and the anxieties always on the prowl to consume us.

And these bring to us exactly what we do *not* want … and … as said before … the emotions of negativity carry a much greater, more volatile flavoring … if you will … of these thoughts and thereby giving them much more power and chance to manifest into our lives … although perhaps not specifically or precisely as our thoughts portrayed. Expressed displeasure can manifest in any number of ways. Frustration towards a specific individual can attract others of a similar nature into our personal sphere. The schoolroom based on this approach is wide open and geared towards the specifics of each individual.

This is the reason for affirmations, for positive thinking, for the Law of Attraction, and similar approaches … but two facets are often overlooked. One … if we have maintained a long-standing habit of the negatives … to turn that around will not happen quickly … especially if one wishes to apply all of this towards something literally of a physical nature. The physical world develops slowly. The two … it is recommended that you find an equal emotional charge to put not the positively expressed thought or new pattern … and that is not easy to do. If you take just a “simple” expression of actual hate or anger … just what emotion would you use to express the opposite … and how would you go about infusing that into the positive thought? It might be somewhat easy to neutralize the hate or anger … but to offset it with equal positive emotion?

That … is not so easy.

So the softening of the heavy negative emotions through learning the virtues and attributes of strength, forgiveness, tolerance, patience, etc … dealing with our daily affairs as best we can with what we’ve personally got to work with … and focusing as often as possible on the attitude letting all others live their lives as they wish while you find a neutral contentment in as much as you can within yourself … eases the highs and lows of these worlds and slowly brings the composure of the middle path. The discipline to bring this about … is your way of life.

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