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24-05-2023, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Journeyman
For someone leaving the physical world because one is physically dying of a painful terminal illness is different. To be eternally forced in pain by whatever divine entity governs us after leaving the physical world via carrying out self deliverance (due to a painful terminal illness) is what is at issue here. I simply find it sadistic that the divine would impose pain on one in the afterlife
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The idea is not whether we are in physical world or not. My idea was if we act / hold thoughts etc., there are consequences -- at least this is my understanding.
I see that Sparrow has responded
I'd like to add that the conceptions you utilise to come up with your own conclusions are based on what you conceive as "divine," "Spirit," "world," "afterlife," "what should be," etc. is.
i.e. Unless there is a revision of the belief framework, then we may be coming at it via different angles.
I imagine, but don't know, that we are eternal, but therein such element, we carry what we have not resolved. I do not imagine we suffer in eternity other than what we carry or do not carry - and that may be a function of spiritual development (or maturity or realisation etc.)
(Also note, I did - nor did anyone on this thread, as far as I saw - not say we suffer for eternity.
As an illustration, when we are dreaming, and wake up, we know that we dreamed, but in the dream we may not realise it.
I think - irrespective of our beliefs or knowledge at this point, - it is wise to find peace and love in this life, so that other times are made easier too.
But I am no expert.
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24-05-2023, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitodin
doorkeepers
It is always a joy to see someone else reflect such experiences in a much clearer light after the fact.
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Thank you for sharing yours, what a truly beautiful piece.
And thanks for linking the old SGS website.
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25-05-2023, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Spirit Guide Sparrow
I must again emphasise that how a human being dies is not as important as how they choose to live. That is my main message.
-Sparrow
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I feel that sentence deep in my Innermost Being, Sparrow.
I Will to LIVE expressing as much Love and Peace and playful humor as I am able within the time frame allotted.
I surrender to ascend above physical pain so I may LIVE being a Giver of Love and Worthy of Love as to prepare for the Spirit World.
These are my intentions set this day in this Sacred space of Wakan Tanka (Great Mystery Spirit) as a commitment to SACRED LIFE ETERNAL.
Hecetu welo (It is so, I have spoken)
Have a Blessed day.
Peace
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25-05-2023, 07:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spirit Guide Sparrow
I must again emphasise that how a human being dies is not as important as how they choose to live. That is my main message.
-Sparrow
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Understood. My issue is that for most of my life I lived my life as a jerk, even though I never thought of myself as a jerk until recently. I shudder when I think about the kind of person I was, and have made conscience effort to better myself, though I have very limited time now...so I don't know if that counts for anything.
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25-05-2023, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Journeyman
I shudder when I think about the kind of person I was, and have made conscience effort to better myself, though I have very limited time now...so I don't know if that counts for anything.
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When you awaken from your dream in the morning, do you think about how to go back and fix the issues you were having in the dream last night? The person you thought you were is a fantasy of interpretation on perception, like a role in a dramatic movie. You are not the person, the actor, or the drama.
The past is only a mental construct to which you have become attached. Attachment breeds identification, and through identification, absolute consciousness comes to believe it is the person, shrunk down into a meat sack and destined for pain, old age, and death. This is the prime Linch pin for endless suffering -- the belief that we are the person. You are not the body, the person, or the suffering.
You are the witness of it all, and ultimately, you are even beyond the witness. When you turn your attention around and go to the source of this identification, you may discover that it is like the avatar in a virtual reality game. You are so enmeshed in the game that you imagine the person you take yourself to be is real. It is not. The recognition of your true nature is not something you add on top of who you are. You simply stop believing in who you are not.
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25-05-2023, 10:05 PM
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Reading through these messages from Sparrow to those who have asked of him.
To me we can all take something positive from them. I especially like the post from eezi-ulgen.
I can really resonate with that
Namaste
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