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Old 26-12-2020, 12:29 AM
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I dont understand what you mean. Please clarify. Perhaps an example/scenario i.e an imaginary scenario is fine for purpose of philosophical pondering


"Universe has no purpose other than the purpose humans want to apply to it."

Why is the above a true statement?
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Old 26-12-2020, 12:37 AM
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"Universe has no purpose other than the purpose humans want to apply to it."

Why is the above a true statement?


Why is it not a true statement?
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Old 26-12-2020, 01:09 AM
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In a simple declarative sentence the purpose of (human) life is to gain wisdom, all that the Earth can teach us.

Human souls are born (created) on their own plane in a state of innocence. The journey begins. Through the application of knowledge they will become wise. And then they will be ready to “ascend” to the post human stage of spiritual evolution. It is true that one can learn everything that is needed while yet in the spiritual realms (heavens) but this is insufficient. It is not knowledge that frees us but wisdom and wisdom is the child of experience. In the heavens it is not possible for souls to associate for very long with others of differing positions in growth… We can learn but we are hard pressed to gain through experience. So we come to a physical world. On a planet such as this one it is possible to meet and overcome adversity. This is the mechanism which produces the needed wisdom. This is the path to freedom (ascension). This is the immediate purpose of human life on a world. I say immediate. This truly is only an introduction to a much broader landscape.

There is much more to this story as we might well imagine. In essence though the above says it all.

Blessings to us all,

Bartholomew


As far as I know, I am here (a.k.a. purpose of life) to learn and practice conscious creation of reality. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 26-12-2020, 01:51 AM
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Why is it not a true statement?



Brother it is your statement, not mine. You must have a reason for putting it forward. I only ask that you justify it by sharing your reasoning.
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Old 26-12-2020, 02:00 AM
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Brother it is your statement, not mine. You must have a reason for putting it forward.

Brother,

1} any other alternatives/options make no sense to me. Do they to you?

2} does anyone see a reason for the purpose of Universe written in the sky somewhere? no, ergo

3} we are left to human ability to apply our purpose to Universe, since it is not written in the sky..

Perhaps the purpose of the Universe is to see what pancakes look before and after their cooked?

Perhaps thee purpose of Universe is to cause humans to ask what is the purpose of the Universe. Etc
I'm all ears for any rational, logical common sense purposes that you have to offer. Jumping jacks may be the ultimate purpose of Universe. What do you think, brother?
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Old 26-12-2020, 04:20 AM
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Brother,

1} any other alternatives/options make no sense to me. Do they to you?

2} does anyone see a reason for the purpose of Universe written in the sky somewhere? no, ergo

3} we are left to human ability to apply our purpose to Universe, since it is not written in the sky..

Perhaps the purpose of the Universe is to see what pancakes look before and after their cooked?

Perhaps thee purpose of Universe is to cause humans to ask what is the purpose of the Universe. Etc
I'm all ears for any rational, logical common sense purposes that you have to offer. Jumping jacks may be the ultimate purpose of Universe. What do you think, brother?


Shall we continue this debate via PM?
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Old 26-12-2020, 11:18 AM
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Not to be a stickler yet again ...discussion is welcome here ...not debate in the FAQ.
So yeah, if it's a debate ---PMing is better. :)
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Old 26-12-2020, 02:33 PM
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Shall we continue this debate via PM?

Because we have differring opinions, that makes our disscussion a debate?

Debates are traditionally in specific format with guidelines ex set time of response etc.

Miss Hepburn { } appears to agree with you, that, our disscussion is a debate. Oops, not she says "if its a debate", ergo my prior comment is error, Sorry M. Hepburn

So if you really feel you cannot answer my questions posed to you in a public presentation, as you appear to expected such from me ---"justify"-- then ok, please respond with your ---rational, logical common sense or "justified"--- opinions in a private message, regarding the purpose of;

1] biological life, { }---RNA-DNA celluar composition and not virus that have only RNA or DNA never both---,

2} purpose of Universe, ---finite, eternally regenerative, occupied space Universe---,

3} purpose of the more complex, mind accessing humans within greater context of animal kingdom.
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Old 26-12-2020, 02:58 PM
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Yeah. It's a tough assignment. A military type might call it a tough tour of duty. Whatever it is it ain't easy.

But it helps us to advance further in a shorter period.

Our soul seems to thrive on this..........
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Old 26-12-2020, 02:59 PM
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But it helps us to advance further in a shorter period.

Our soul seems to thrive on this..........


But at times, we seem to forget this.
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