Jesus brought truth

[Morpheus]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Question.
So Jesus as God's Son would not suffice for him atoning for human's sins? He would have to be God?
I have no problem with you believing that; I do with you saying it as fact on this Forum and how it could effect the JW's here.

Yes M.H. Exactly, which again I asked, how do you identify a "cult"?
Yes, it is a very serious situation.

Re: John 1:29! Who is "The Lamb of God"?

Jesus Himself declared His deity, as cited here already by sky in post #2.
KJW?
Jesus didn't lie about His deity, nor about His authority.
And, of course He is, "The One".

[Morpheus]

Titus 2:11

Our God

[Molearner]

Originally Posted by Morpheus

Titus 2:11
Our God

All ?……………..

[keiw1]

Originally Posted by Morpheus

So here? We come back to "Canon". The agreement among many scholars on what is true.
The Essene's, once again transcribed the Dead Sea Scrolls, and a multinational research committe confirms that what is in the transcribed scrolls, agrees with our modern versions.
So I'm curious...do you identify with the word, "Cults"?

According to bible truth, which is the cult to God?
34,000 trinity religions or 1 single religion

Mark 3:25 a house divided will not stand. 1Cor 1:10--Unity of thought( all Gods truth) no division?

a 10 year old can pick the correct one.

[Nowayout]

You should all read this, it's a very good definition of God's Salvation for us.

Gods truths...

The western Church's view on God's Wrath vs the eastern churches takes on God's love for us.

https://blogs.ancientfaith.com/glory...ire-kalomiros/


Did you ever try to pinpoint what is the principal characteristic of Western theology? Well, its principal characteristic is that it considers God as the real cause of all evil.

What is evil? Is it not the estrangement from God Who is Life? 1 Is it not death? What does Western theology teach about death? All Roman Catholics and most Protestants consider death as a punishment from God. God considered all men guilty of Adam’s sin and punished them by death, that is by cutting them away from Himself; depriving them of His live giving energy, and so killing them spiritually at first and later bodily, by some sort of spiritual starvation. Augustine interprets the passage in Genesis “If you eat of the fruit of this tree, you will die the death” as “If you eat of the fruit of this tree, I will kill you”.

Or Eastern views..

The word DIKAIWSUNH,“justice”, is a translation of the Hebraic word tsedaka. This word means “the divine energy which accomplishes man’s salvation”. It is parallel and almost synonymous to the other Hebraic word, hesed which means “mercy”, “compassion”, “love”, and to the word, emeth which means “fidelity”, “truth”. This, as you see, gives a completely other dimension to what we usually conceive as justice.5 This is how the Church understood God’s justice. This is what the Fathers of the Church taught of it. “How can you call God just”, writes Saint Isaac the Syrian, “when you read the passage on the wage given to the workers? ‘Friend, I do thee no wrong; I will give unto this last even as unto thee who worked for me from the first hour. Is thine eye evil, because I am good?'” “How can a man call God just”, continues Saint Isaac, “when he comes across the passage on the prodigal son, who wasted his wealth in riotous living, and yet only for the contrition which he showed, the father ran and fell upon his neck, and gave him authority over all his wealth? None other but His very Son said these things concerning Him lest we doubt it, and thus He bare witness concerning Him. Where, then, is God’s justice, for whilst we were sinners, Christ died for us!” 6


Clips from the text, read it in full to fully understand the eastern Church view. And the Truth of Jesus.

[BigJohn]

Some people claim Christians burned people at the stake and other atrocities but I ask, where they really Christians? Some claim Christians were the ones that dropped atomic bombs on 'pagans' but I ask, where they really Christians? Which leads me to ask an interesting question: "As for those who did these atrocities, how many of them believed in the Trinity? How many of them believe in Hell?'

And then, we can dwell on other things.
For example, Koine Greek does not distinguish between upper case and lower case so it 'appears' to be hard to know which case for God/god/gods is being used. This can lead to confusion. For example, some claim we are Gods whereas others claim we are only gods. Some claim Satan is God whereas some claim Satan is only a god. The same 'problem' occurs with Jesus. Some claim he was God and others claim he is a god. Those who know how the expression should be rendered as God or god or gods, what criteria do you use to make that decision?

[sky]

Originally Posted by keiw1

According to bible truth, which is the cult to God?


a 10 year old can pick the correct one.

The 'Ten year olds' in my Family definitely couldn't pick the 'Correct' one

[sky]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

Some people claim Christians burned people at the stake and other atrocities but I ask, where they really Christians?

No John they where not Christians although they used the title, Christian by name but not by action.
'We will know them by their fruits'.

[Miss Hepburn]

I still say a person is a Christian by definition by believing in the Nicene Creed.
Could they be a 'sinner' ---as in, an adulterer, a thief and still be a Christian?
Yes, according to the only definition made in history.
(Just a weak, stumbling Christian!)

[Nowayout]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

Some people claim Christians burned people at the stake and other atrocities but I ask, where they really Christians? Some claim Christians were the ones that dropped atomic bombs on 'pagans' but I ask, where they really Christians? Which leads me to ask an interesting question: "As for those who did these atrocities, how many of them believed in the Trinity? How many of them believe in Hell?'

People from all walks of belief do awful things, Hindus, Muslims, Christians, how do they justify it? What are you looking for here, condemnation of all good Christians? The Trinity, God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit can't do much at times because we are free to do what we do, for now.

God is watching... and waiting.