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Old 07-01-2022, 02:42 PM
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I was just exposed to someone that called later to say he has Omicron.
Ok. What happens will happen. *shrug*
Ya can't fight against it.

In most cases, for vaccinated people without pre-existing health issues, it’s mild. Unlikely to impact you, Miss H! Prayers & good wishes
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Old 07-01-2022, 04:06 PM
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''Attachment'' is a bit of a dirty word, the way it's used. It's really about bonds, and bonds are necessary to make life worthwhile: family, friends, pets, places, hobbies, etc. These make life worthwhile.

Hi Altair. True. You are right. No doubt about it. For living, Bonds are really necessary. That pushes one to work hard and much more. First, when I came to watch Naruto, this what I learned. Loneliness, sufferings is part of life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI6_qhqa-3o

But, what about one who wants go beyond Life?? What happens at the end of Life?? Why Life starts and ends but doesn't last long??

These are the questions pushed me to go beyond Naruto to spirituality, like how pushed Buddha to know the Truth by seeing the sufferings of limitations.

One who wants life, this is life as you said. But one who wants Truth, one must go and search beyond Life too.

There are two things - Winning IN Life - Like Naruto,etc.. Second, Winning the Life itself.

Thank you.

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Old 07-01-2022, 05:14 PM
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Loneliness, sufferings is part of life.
Hmm, another input: I felt the actual feeling of loneliness on a Sunday, April 19 of 1981...
And let myself feel it, (because it was such a new feeling), for maybe 1
full minute...which is really a long time.
So I guess you are right...that 1 minute is a 'part of life'.


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Old 07-01-2022, 06:31 PM
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Hi Altair. True. You are right. No doubt about it. For living, Bonds are really necessary. That pushes one to work hard and much more. First, when I came to watch Naruto, this what I learned. Loneliness, sufferings is part of life.

Thanks for that Viswa, I'm glad you brought that up! I remember watching it back in the 2000s and reading the manga until its end in 2014.

(( But, you should have posted a video with the Japanese voices!!!!!! ))

There were villain(s) in the show that wanted to create a dream world where everyone would be forced to be stuck in dreams of happiness. ((There was a motive beyond that by two other villains as you may know, but the main villains were unaware of that)). They genuinely believed that it would be better for humanity to be forced into happy dreams than live in a world where suffering and pain existed.
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Old 08-01-2022, 04:38 AM
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So I guess you are right...that 1 minute is a 'part of life'.



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They genuinely believed that it would be better for humanity to be forced into happy dreams than live in a world where suffering and pain existed.

The characters in Naruto, either hero or anti-hero, believed that, only in end of Sufferings - Peace can be achieved. But, villains like Pain Obito and Madara, who were starting very lovable, but when going through sufferings, decided that "Love and Hate goes hand by hand, so love is not solution, and only Power". They turned against people for gaining more power, so one day they might get ten-tails power and bring peace in the world by invoking Infinite tsukoyomi ( the dream you said).

But, Black zetsu had other plan to bring back Kaguya.

So, where those villains failed is where Naruto succeeded. Naruto thought that, betraying people for power will not bring any peace. Even Hagoromo Otsutsuki thought that, both Power and Love has to go hand on hand to bring true peace, and finally Naruto succeeded in it after Hagoromo. Hagoromo found Ninshu for better living and not for fight, like how scientists discover machines/technologies/etc.. But like the politicians, all the Kages of five nations and Uchihas and many other, were used those as Ninjutsu to fight wars to save their own people and clans.

Naruto seen all these out of box, and found Power/clans/only supporting their own village, won't bring Peace as a whole in the world. Love must be the path and to bring that, Power should also be there. Both Power and Love has to go together.

But, to me, though it is brought, it won't last long. When Naruto like King dies, then greed and Power will took the place he left.

Like in Gita says, "Whenever Adharma takes upper hand, I will come and bring Peace AGAIN". Again....

So, outer peace keeps on changing, War and Peace will go one after another everlastingly. But, inner peace, it's always there.

Namaste.

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Old 08-01-2022, 12:39 PM
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Does life become effortless after awakening or does life becoming effortless facilitate awakening? Or is it more of an oscillating back-and-forth?

Here's an interesting article on flow state. That part below about decreased brain activity is also what happens during meditation. The default mode network activity decreases. That's "the story of me" and a lateral self-referencing network is strengthened. That's more of a direct experience network. I can feel the weight of my body, the sun on my face, the wind in my hair, etc...

Want life to require less effort? Less focus on the story of me and more focus on direct experience. Some might call it being present and I suppose during more intense activity being in the zone or flow state.

https://www.realclearscience.com/art...re_811113.html

"Research also shows that flow is associated with decreased activity in brain structures implicated in self-focus. This may help explain why feeling flow can help distract people from worry."
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Old 09-01-2022, 12:28 AM
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Does life become effortless after awakening or does life becoming effortless facilitate awakening?......

Hm yes. That might be a better way of putting it. My question though has to do with how when things happen just when you need them to. Interesting article though. Thanks :)
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