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25-06-2021, 01:18 AM
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Ascender
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existence/cause/consequence
We may wonder--
What is the cause of the consequence which we think of the process of existence?
And then suddenly wonder if existence is the process of cause and consequence?
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26-06-2021, 02:35 AM
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Knower
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Are you wondering if there is consequences in thinking of consequences?
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26-06-2021, 09:44 AM
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Ascender
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Hello Matty and all.
On reading the O.P. again, should read "---we think of__as__the process of existence". My mistake.
Re your post above Matty--I had no such thought but welcome yours and further Matty.
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26-06-2021, 11:40 AM
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Ascender
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A thought--guessing it to be obvious but worth further thought?--is that the process of cause and consequence appears to be a one way ticket into the future.
Whilst also understanding that the effect of consequences can be reversed by application of further cause.
And also that cause and consequence may somehow coalesce in some mysterious way--thinking of loving begetting loving--.
Again also. Perhaps in conditions of the minute/tiny and enormity something currently considered as beyond the capability of objective analysis may become apparent.?
All offered as questions, not given as statements of fact.
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26-06-2021, 04:16 PM
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Master
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existence play of hide and seek
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Originally Posted by weareunity
We may wonder--
What is the cause of the consequence which we think of the process of existence?
And then suddenly wonder if existence is the process of cause and consequence?
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I think existence wants to play a game of hide and seek like
1. twinkling stars
2. human life (sleep/awake)
3. one /dual/triplex/many
4. Day night
.... etc at various levels in various intensities and in various contexts.
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26-06-2021, 06:09 PM
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Knower
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To me , and many others, this is the core essence of in a way understanding.
As you mentioned about Love, you can also tell from what or whom a person Love's.
Not to bring scripture into this intentionally but this popped into mind.
Jesus mentioned that, what's in the Mind will sink into the Heart.
Kinda like once again where you mention about thinking of Love begetting Love.
I don't know about the actual existence but I truly believe we as the human race create our reality within this existence that we live in. In some circles this intertwine's with the concept of Spiritual battle
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06-07-2021, 03:18 AM
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Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty
I truly believe we as the human race create our reality within this existence that we live in.
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Do you mean we create our social living condition in society? Or are you talking about something fundamental i.e. existence itself?
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06-07-2021, 08:35 PM
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Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by weareunity
EXCERPT What is the cause of the consequence which we think of the process of existence?
And then suddenly wonder if existence is the process of cause and consequence?
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The leading thought is that as we approach back in time to that of before the Big Bang (which is in of itself a theory), time did not exist. Another leading thought is that if time does not exist, cause and effect does not exist also.
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06-07-2021, 10:04 PM
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Hello BigJohn.
Thanks for that.
My thoughts too have long pondered upon the relationship between time and change.-- and wonder still if one is the consequence of the other--and in what sequence.
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07-07-2021, 10:57 AM
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My understanding of the Big Bang Theory is that before the Big Bang, there was no Time. Once the Big Bang happened (change) then Time came into existence.
One of the big speculative questions is "How many times has the Big Bang occurred?"
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