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Old 28-12-2020, 04:37 PM
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It makes sense. Here on Earth it is possible to do in a short time what may take aeons on some other planet which is less diverse. We seem to have cures aplenty. Thanks...

Some of my teachers have indeed advised me to discover everything that I can while on the earth plane since similar opportunities might not be available on the other planes. Abide in the moment as opportunities present themselves.
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Old 29-12-2020, 09:38 PM
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That makes good sense Still_Waters.
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Old 29-12-2020, 10:02 PM
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Some of my teachers have indeed advised me to discover everything that
I can while on the earth plane since similar opportunities might not be available on the other planes.
Abide in the moment as opportunities present themselves.
I wonder if you learn on other planes when you stub your toe
not to scream profanities with children around?
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Old 29-12-2020, 10:57 PM
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I wonder if you learn on other planes when you stub your toe
not to scream profanities with children around?
"planes"? Is this about airplanes? Does it include airports?

This reminds of a piece of news about an incident at an airport, during the last couple of days. A flight was cancelled, and a passenger started to shout profanities. Another passenger who was there with his kids, upset, asked the first guy to watch his language and got punched hard in the face. Whose lesson was that?
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Old 29-12-2020, 11:05 PM
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This reminds of a piece of news about an incident at an airport, during the last couple of days. A flight was cancelled, and a passenger started to shout profanities. Another passenger who was there with his kids, upset, asked the first guy
to watch his language and got punched hard in the face. Whose lesson was that?
Only on this psycho planet.
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Old 30-12-2020, 01:51 AM
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"planes"? Is this about airplanes? Does it include airports?

This reminds of a piece of news about an incident at an airport, during the last couple of days. A flight was cancelled, and a passenger started to shout profanities. Another passenger who was there with his kids, upset, asked the first guy to watch his language and got punched hard in the face. Whose lesson was that?



The use of the word "planes" on a forum which deals with spirituality refers, not to airplanes or airports, but to those subtle, less tangible concentric sheaths which surround the hard Earth. These are not known to science but they are to those who regularly interact with them. Here are a couple of examples:

1. A couple or three decades back my wife and I were visiting with a lady friend of ours when she, with a look of fear on her face, told me, suddenly, that "something terrible just happened in Texas". (her exact words) The next day we all read and heard about the Waco incident. How did she know if the physical Earth is all there is? She could not have known if our minds result from only the electrical/chemical processes of our brains. But she did know and the reason is because our physical brains are more than just physically reactive things. They are much more. They have the ability to act as receivers of information coming from various subtle planes which are a very real part of the planet (and other worlds too). Please read on for a description of how this works. This is a true account. I DO NOT lie.

2. Military remote viewing. If it was nonsense the military would have never used it. Regardless of what we hear they still use it. And so do the Chinese and Russian intelligence organizations. They say they quit only as a form of disinformation, to deflect attention. They still use it. Remote viewing works when a woman or a man is sufficiently sensitive to the astral plane. They then, using their (mid range) minds, think of a specific location on the physical Earth and are able to sympathetically connect with other humans at that site. Language is no barrier because telepathy is being used. Our CIA is well aware of all this even if they do not fully understand how it works. It's real. It is not nonsense. Note: regardless of what they say they are still very much engaged with the practice. They are using disinformation to dissuade us to the contrary).

You must be interested in aspects of spirituality or you would not be on this forum. Why are you here if you do not believe? Visualize the Earth in three dimensions. Now see it as a series of concentric shells. The hard physical is the first. The liqueous extends a bit further away from the center. Next is the gaseous (atmosphere)... further still. Here mainstream science stops because science has not yet been able to quantify the less than physical components of the universe. The next shell is not physical material. It is generally not detectable except for the Kirlian photography which is able to detect it. Auras are made of ethereal matter. This next shell is, as we call it, the ethereal shell. Want to see ethereal matter? OK sit someone down on a chair in a dim light. Have them undressed, waist up. Make sure there is no alcohol or other depressants in you (that will lower your vibes) then look at them. Now let your eyes go slightly out of focus and gaze just to the side of their body. If your vibes are high enough you will see a very strange, blueish glowing all around them where their skin is exposed. From 1/8th of an inch to about 3 inches it is, depending on their health. This is the lowest of the spiritual planes, the ethereal. And how are you seeing it?
Our pineal glands are made of two parts. The inner serves as our connection apparatus to the subtle, higher worlds. The pineal is known to be concerned with various hormones. This is the overt function. There is another. There does exist a very small pocket of very light blue liquid which resonates at a frequency that is much higher than anything which has been identified in our physical spectrum. Einstein knew about his and wrote of it. He was one of many men and women who were capable of knowing about things and realizing that they couldn't be quantified or proven.
He didn't let this stop him. he knew. "I want to know God's thoughts. The rest are details" (A. Einstein) There is a direct physical connection between the pineal and the visual cortex. Why is this and what's it for? Why would melatonin want to use such a pathway? This is the avenue through which we perceive visions. When a psychic exclaims she or he has "seen" something it is this very real channel that is in play.

Please study these things. Don't take my word for it. And try to be open minded like a good scientist.

The next of the subtle concentric shells is the astral (emotional) plane. This is the one which is the most active in biological life on our planet. If it could be seen with our physical eyes it would appear as a three dimensional shell surrounding the Earth out to a distance of about 26,000 miles. The next is the mental shell and so on. These are all valid parts of the Earth without which no life (biological or otherwise, could exist).

At this point the occultist would consider the law of correspondences and look to the solar system as a whole. She or he would easily see the very same arrangement, with variations.

Spirituality, like so much in our human experience, has been subjected to nothing more than sensationalism. This is a pity. Such things happen because we humans are too strongly ruled by our lower, desire, minds. When we are thus engrossed can we be expected to soar to the heights of knowledge and wisdom? Not hardly but we spend lots of time in the lower planes thinking that messages and ancestor worship are the epitomy of spiritual practice. It is not.

Physical matter exists. Astral emotional matter exists. Mental matter exists. These are the basics of the composition of the Earth "system" without which we could not survive. The concentric shells of subtle matter are the heavens of the Earth that are so often spoken of. Heaven is not some magical place where we go to sit around with smiles on our faces in some irrational setting. Heaven is the higher correspondence of the Earth. Here we live between our physical lives, with purpose. Those who do not believe it would do well to set their prejudices aside and seriously investigate, incorporating their own psychic experiences.



Thanks... It is perfectly OK if you do not believe the same things that we do. I ask that you be good enough, though, to allow us our convictions. And perhaps you will be more generous with your comments. Forgive me for my manner.

This is not a channeled message from Bartholomew. It's from me, James.
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Old 30-12-2020, 02:02 AM
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To save time - inavalan was just joking around --he is spiritual.
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Old 30-12-2020, 02:07 AM
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The use of the word "planes" ...
This is not a channeled message from Bartholomew. It's from me, James.
That was a joke. I'm surprised by your reaction.
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Old 30-12-2020, 06:22 AM
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The use of the word "planes" on a forum which deals with spirituality refers, not to airplanes or airports, but to those subtle, less tangible concentric sheaths which surround the hard Earth. These are not known to science but they are to those who regularly interact with them. Here are a couple of examples:

1. A couple or three decades back my wife and I were visiting with a lady friend of ours when she, with a look of fear on her face, told me, suddenly, that "something terrible just happened in Texas". (her exact words) The next day we all read and heard about the Waco incident. How did she know if the physical Earth is all there is? She could not have known if our minds result from only the electrical/chemical processes of our brains. But she did know and the reason is because our physical brains are more than just physically reactive things. They are much more. They have the ability to act as receivers of information coming from various subtle planes which are a very real part of the planet (and other worlds too). Please read on for a description of how this works. This is a true account. I DO NOT lie.

2. Military remote viewing. If it was nonsense the military would have never used it. Regardless of what we hear they still use it. And so do the Chinese and Russian intelligence organizations. They say they quit only as a form of disinformation, to deflect attention. They still use it. Remote viewing works when a woman or a man is sufficiently sensitive to the astral plane. They then, using their (mid range) minds, think of a specific location on the physical Earth and are able to sympathetically connect with other humans at that site. Language is no barrier because telepathy is being used. Our CIA is well aware of all this even if they do not fully understand how it works. It's real. It is not nonsense. Note: regardless of what they say they are still very much engaged with the practice. They are using disinformation to dissuade us to the contrary).

You must be interested in aspects of spirituality or you would not be on this forum. Why are you here if you do not believe? Visualize the Earth in three dimensions. Now see it as a series of concentric shells. The hard physical is the first. The liqueous extends a bit further away from the center. Next is the gaseous (atmosphere)... further still. Here mainstream science stops because science has not yet been able to quantify the less than physical components of the universe. The next shell is not physical material. It is generally not detectable except for the Kirlian photography which is able to detect it. Auras are made of ethereal matter. This next shell is, as we call it, the ethereal shell. Want to see ethereal matter? OK sit someone down on a chair in a dim light. Have them undressed, waist up. Make sure there is no alcohol or other depressants in you (that will lower your vibes) then look at them. Now let your eyes go slightly out of focus and gaze just to the side of their body. If your vibes are high enough you will see a very strange, blueish glowing all around them where their skin is exposed. From 1/8th of an inch to about 3 inches it is, depending on their health. This is the lowest of the spiritual planes, the ethereal. And how are you seeing it?
Our pineal glands are made of two parts. The inner serves as our connection apparatus to the subtle, higher worlds. The pineal is known to be concerned with various hormones. This is the overt function. There is another. There does exist a very small pocket of very light blue liquid which resonates at a frequency that is much higher than anything which has been identified in our physical spectrum. Einstein knew about his and wrote of it. He was one of many men and women who were capable of knowing about things and realizing that they couldn't be quantified or proven.
He didn't let this stop him. he knew. "I want to know God's thoughts. The rest are details" (A. Einstein) There is a direct physical connection between the pineal and the visual cortex. Why is this and what's it for? Why would melatonin want to use such a pathway? This is the avenue through which we perceive visions. When a psychic exclaims she or he has "seen" something it is this very real channel that is in play.

Please study these things. Don't take my word for it. And try to be open minded like a good scientist.

The next of the subtle concentric shells is the astral (emotional) plane. This is the one which is the most active in biological life on our planet. If it could be seen with our physical eyes it would appear as a three dimensional shell surrounding the Earth out to a distance of about 26,000 miles. The next is the mental shell and so on. These are all valid parts of the Earth without which no life (biological or otherwise, could exist).

At this point the occultist would consider the law of correspondences and look to the solar system as a whole. She or he would easily see the very same arrangement, with variations.

Spirituality, like so much in our human experience, has been subjected to nothing more than sensationalism. This is a pity. Such things happen because we humans are too strongly ruled by our lower, desire, minds. When we are thus engrossed can we be expected to soar to the heights of knowledge and wisdom? Not hardly but we spend lots of time in the lower planes thinking that messages and ancestor worship are the epitomy of spiritual practice. It is not.

Physical matter exists. Astral emotional matter exists. Mental matter exists. These are the basics of the composition of the Earth "system" without which we could not survive. The concentric shells of subtle matter are the heavens of the Earth that are so often spoken of. Heaven is not some magical place where we go to sit around with smiles on our faces in some irrational setting. Heaven is the higher correspondence of the Earth. Here we live between our physical lives, with purpose. Those who do not believe it would do well to set their prejudices aside and seriously investigate, incorporating their own psychic experiences.



Thanks... It is perfectly OK if you do not believe the same things that we do. I ask that you be good enough, though, to allow us our convictions. And perhaps you will be more generous with your comments. Forgive me for my manner.

This is not a channeled message from Bartholomew. It's from me, James.
James,

I have always enjoy your in-depth and well thought out discourses.
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Old 30-12-2020, 11:46 AM
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James,

I have always enjoy your in-depth and well thought out discourses.


Thanks Big John. ...

I hope we can meet again.... perhaps in the Healing Room... Maybe you should take it over. No destroyer has soiled it yet.
I hope none does. I give it to you to manage. And Lady Pumpkin is lonely. She yearns for a behind the ear scratch... ha ha

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