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01-09-2020, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BigJohn
Some people can not fully grasp the concept of free will. When God gave entities free will, it was the respective entity's choice what they would do with their free will. If they should do 'bad', it is reflection on the entity for making a 'bad' choice, not God.
Parents have children and the children have free will. Sometimes when an issue comes up, the off-spring exercises their free-will. In order to see who is 'right', the parent may give the off-spring time to see if they will fail or succeed. God is doing the same thing with us today.
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If 'God' is constantly checking on us then we don't have free will. Obviously.
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The constantly promoted belief (induced by religions) that we are born to be good and obey (in order to enter heaven) is a tragic error in the concept of the universe's plan and an insult to mankind's intellect.
'A clear conscience is the sure sign of a bad memory'
- Mark Twain.
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01-09-2020, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Busby
If 'God' is constantly checking on us then we don't have free will. Obviously.
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Checking on, as if watching and observing, does not interfere with free will.
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01-09-2020, 06:17 PM
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Ok, sorry I made a butt of myself.
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That's ok brother. I wasn't offended. It's all good. 
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'The two most important days in your life; the day you were born and the day you find out why.' - Mark Twain
Ha ezek lennének az utolsó szavaim, minden jót kívánok az élet során. Ahogy mindent megtettem, hogy figyelmeztesselek. Béke és szeretet mindig - HA
Yes, I spell my alias incorrectly on purpose. To prove I am not perfect. Yet.
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01-09-2020, 06:45 PM
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What do you mean, fishing for what?
Well, I'm not exactly sure what that has to do with the topic, but if you pay close attention and use common sense you might find out that I'm referring to people (and religion in general), instead of non-living things such as forums.
No offence, but clearly your awareness isn't heightened enough if you're trying to crucify me.
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[quote]What do you mean, fishing for what?[/qoute]Baiting, getting people to bite.
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Well, I'm not exactly sure what that has to do with the topic, but if you pay close attention and use common sense you might find out that I'm referring to people (and religion in general), instead of non-living things such as forums.
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I get it, I even do this. When challenged get on the defensive. Yeah, I lack every sense, even common. I have no idea what I talk about. I just ramble on. I have no experience, no education, I am blind deaf and stupid I was born retarded and I have no freaking idea what time it is. Have I missed anything?
I call it as I see it, that's what I based my observation on. If I would have made a judgement then I would have assumed that may have been what you meant. Look at what the definition of subscribe means.
I'll also admit to you that I have an eye for detail, although it isn't a balanced trait in myself. What do I mean? I try my best to be as detailed and polished as possible. This doesn't happen all the time. But I seek it in others. it's probably a 40/60 split (in order as it was typed above), haha as above, so below.
When else would I have pointed this out. In a separate and new topic? Why would I want to crucify you? Not my thing. Are you being literal or figuratively speaking I don't know anymore. Is that what you would like?
Wherever this has gone, regardless chill. I am not having a crack at you. Observations bro.
I'll go back to playing with my sock puppet now and when I get bored with that I'll play with my belly button.  
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'The two most important days in your life; the day you were born and the day you find out why.' - Mark Twain
Ha ezek lennének az utolsó szavaim, minden jót kívánok az élet során. Ahogy mindent megtettem, hogy figyelmeztesselek. Béke és szeretet mindig - HA
Yes, I spell my alias incorrectly on purpose. To prove I am not perfect. Yet.
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01-09-2020, 06:50 PM
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Lol.
Just saw the posts #52 #53.
You guys rock.
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01-09-2020, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Busby
If 'God' is constantly checking on us then we don't have free will. Obviously.
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BigJohn,(I'm using my index finger and tapping the side of my nose) You're onto something. Religion used/uses this hype to control the people. Religion is man-made and they used this and many other methods to subdue people into the belief that if they did this or that god will bring wrath upon you and you'll be turned into a pile of ash. God is unadulterated, absolute, unconditional love. Why would God do that? It was man who made religion who in turn created the perception of God is watching and will judge and finally distorting their fellow brethren's free will. Of coarse God is watching he is in us all, we are a part/fragments of God.
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'The two most important days in your life; the day you were born and the day you find out why.' - Mark Twain
Ha ezek lennének az utolsó szavaim, minden jót kívánok az élet során. Ahogy mindent megtettem, hogy figyelmeztesselek. Béke és szeretet mindig - HA
Yes, I spell my alias incorrectly on purpose. To prove I am not perfect. Yet.
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01-09-2020, 07:11 PM
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[quote=Heightend-Awareness]
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What do you mean, fishing for what?[/qoute]Baiting, getting people to bite.
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Not really. But if that's what you think, so be it. I see no point in wasting time trying to prove a random person on the internet wrong.
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I get it, I even do this. When challenged get on the defensive. Yeah, I lack every sense, even common. I have no idea what I talk about. I just ramble on. I have no experience, no education, I am blind deaf and stupid I was born retarded and I have no freaking idea what time it is. Have I missed anything?
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lol those are your own words, not mine. But if you say so....
How intriguing. Surprise, I also prefer any stuff I'm involved with to be as detailed as possible (like who the hell wouldn't?) but forgive me, maybe to a somewhat less annoying extent. But you already received my answer... So do you have anything more fascinating to share?
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Shall I give you dis pear?
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01-09-2020, 07:50 PM
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Not really. But if that's what you think, so be it. I see no point in wasting time trying to prove a random person on the internet wrong.
lol those are your own words, not mine. But if you say so....
How intriguing. Surprise, I also prefer any stuff I'm involved with to be as detailed as possible (like who the hell wouldn't?) but forgive me, maybe to a somewhat less annoying extent. But you already received my answer... So do you have anything more fascinating to share?
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What's your favourite sock puppet?
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'The two most important days in your life; the day you were born and the day you find out why.' - Mark Twain
Ha ezek lennének az utolsó szavaim, minden jót kívánok az élet során. Ahogy mindent megtettem, hogy figyelmeztesselek. Béke és szeretet mindig - HA
Yes, I spell my alias incorrectly on purpose. To prove I am not perfect. Yet.
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01-09-2020, 07:55 PM
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[quote=SlayerOfLight lol those are your own words, not mine. But if you say so....
If you can't tell that I was being sarcastic and self-cynical, then you can't play with any of my sock puppets, you can just go play with your belly button.
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'The two most important days in your life; the day you were born and the day you find out why.' - Mark Twain
Ha ezek lennének az utolsó szavaim, minden jót kívánok az élet során. Ahogy mindent megtettem, hogy figyelmeztesselek. Béke és szeretet mindig - HA
Yes, I spell my alias incorrectly on purpose. To prove I am not perfect. Yet.
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02-09-2020, 05:33 AM
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lol those are your own words, not mine. But if you say so....
If you can't tell that I was being sarcastic and self-cynical, then you can't play with any of my sock puppets, you can just go play with your belly button.
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Ok, whatever dude. I've already lost interest in this useless chitter, so kthxbye.
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Shall I give you dis pear?
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