Avadhuta Gita ~ Random extracts

[lovetruth]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

Thank you, lovetruth ~ would be delighted to listen to your understanding as well.

In our state of differentiated perception, we tend to be enraptured with colours of the rainbow, oblivious to the white light wherefrom prismatic refraction occurred, just as we are oriented not to notice not space but rather objects contained therein.

Well as I see it we are all so connected and receive from so many beautiful perspectives because we are "playing" as individuals, although we each have a unique song to sing if we give it half a chance. It is so beautiful to hear the divine voices of each other. All original and fresh.

[Unseeking Seeker]

Chapter 1, verse 39

“Even my natural self appears to me as non-distinct from the supreme Self; it appears to be one and like space. How can there be meditator and meditation?”


beginning at the end of our understanding
globe of love and light of God is all that is
without diminishing Himself, He creates all
felt in the manifest universe as a bliss fizz

have ye not seen the truth as yet oh hermit
know the seeker who seeks does not exist
if we be still judging neither fault nor merit
our pristine presence is by bliss mists kissed

acknowledging form as also boundless space
we imprint our unique emotes in the vast void
as both this here now and the absolute totality
effervescence of our love is pure and unalloyed

[Goldcup7]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

“Even my natural self appears to me as non-distinct from the supreme Self; it appears to be one and like space. How can there be meditator and meditation?”

Imo here the awakened one speaks of recognising that the personal self is not separate or distinct from the impersonal Self. It is the clear seeing of reality as it is, unclouded by thoughts of this and that.

There is a spacious quality to the Self. Some describe the Self/Awareness as Emptiness. Eckhart Tolle prefers the term Spaciousness, I believe. Emptiness and the Void seem like negative terms, whereas Spaciousness conveys a sense of unbounded openness, which imo is the same but sounds less stark.

The quote goes on to question how there can be a meditator and meditation, again pointing out the oneness and non-distinction of a meditator and the act of meditating: there is only the Self. There is not a meditator meditating, there is simply the Self being. Nothing is done, only an appearance of a doer doing.

[Unseeking Seeker]

@ Goldcup7 ~ about meditator and meditation or this body and activation in it by kundalini, we may notice that innate aliveness of presence always is. Thus, rotating polarity by effortless, spontaneous, playful intent, we become the energy of silence pervading form and thus are not meditating but are being meditated upon.

Likewise, shifting from potential energy of stillness to kinetic energy of kundalini, we become the kundalini itself navigating through energy conduits (nadis) in form. Looking at it this way, the kundalini or Divine Mother then is not something external to our innate being.

The blurring of boundaries, in my view is enabled by this simple recognition which shifts our orientation to be one with oneness, whilst momentarily localised in form, wherein there then is no this versus that. We are both immanent and transcendent simultaneously and there is no doer, no applicator of effort, at any time, no practice to be done, no schedule to be followed.

we are as we are, in blissful repose ~
delighting as heart lotus within grows

[Unseeking Seeker]

Chapter 1, verse Verse 49

“There is no body made up of five elements; nor is there anyone who is disembodied.
All is verily the Self alone.
How can there be the three states and the fourth?”


To put this verse in perspective
We pause to explain elements and states
The former, earth, water, fire air and vast space
The states are waking, dreaming, deep sleep
The fourth is turiya, recognised by grace

First things first, we are not decaying organic form
This body-mind is but an earth life interface
A vehicle to feel by touch pulse dual
Our true form in singularity is living light
Eternal awareness self-aware in endless renewal

With this preamble the verse becomes clear
Yet remains a concept until we directly recognise
An enablement offered if we be still in the vibrant void
Where in timeless time false identity falls away
Revealing light of Self pure and unalloyed

[Goldcup7]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

“There is no body made up of five elements; nor is there anyone who is disembodied.
All is verily the Self alone. How can there be the three states and the fourth?”

Imo the verse here states that neither the body nor the soul exists - there is only the Self/God. Believing 'I am a human' is ignorance, as is believing 'I am a soul'. Spiritual folk many not agree with the second statement, but the teaching here goes beyond the soul to the ultimate truth that there is only God. Therefore we are neither the body nor the soul.

The verse doesn't specifically say 'soul' but says there isn't anyone 'disembodied'. Imo this covers the soul and any kind of formless identity that we assume takes form (incarnates). These teachings say that the ultimate truth is Brahman/God/Self alone, and the true Self at the heart of who we are is identity-free God.

Why does God have no identity? Because God (or the true nature of Being) is infinite and formless. If God were to think "I am this" then it would imply there is God and something that God identifies with. But there is nothing other than boundless God. All is God/Self. 'I am' is without identity.

I'm looking at these verses from a Non-Duality perspective, and not particularly with any scholarly insight. So when it comes to the three states and a fourth I'm not sure what these are. But I agree that there are never really several different 'things' or states of consciousness, there is only God. God is Pure Consciousness imo, and different states of consciousness appear as if clouding or tainting the one true pure state of being, that is always here.

[Miss Hepburn]

Isn't it wonderful?!!
There is only God!

[Unseeking Seeker]

Thanks for your input, Goldcup7 and for your bright and uplifting affirmation, Miss H

I too hold the view based on direct experience that God alone is the one in all. Whilst this is clear, I’d say my state is that of flickering awareness, meaning completion yet awaits; ego is not fully erased and therefore mind-body urges intrude in the stillness continuum.

[Goldcup7]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

I’d say my state is that of flickering awareness, meaning completion yet awaits; ego is not fully erased and therefore mind-body urges intrude in the stillness continuum.

I'd say it makes no difference to the Self/God whether the world, the body, the ego or the mind appears. The true state of Complete Awareness (aka the Self/God) is right here now. But yes, the mind and the sense of ego think otherwise, so there seems to be something to achieve, to just be as we are.

[Unseeking Seeker]

Originally Posted by Goldcup7

I'd say it makes no difference to the Self/God whether the world, the body, the ego or the mind appears. The true state of Complete Awareness (aka the Self/God) is right here now. But yes, the mind and the sense of ego think otherwise, so there seems to be something to achieve, to just be as we are.

Yes indeed. However grace imbibed or wisdom glimpsed need to be assimilated, such that the flame becomes flicker-free in the heart.

Reworded, if we have been, seen and so known anything, in any deep immersion, is it now but a memory recalled from time to time by mind, or has it become the living vibrance of our heartbeat itself?

Acceptance too is egoic, the ego, an entity accepting. What is needed is a transmutation, a becoming.