ISHVARA SELF I S

[Michael K.]

This thread is about my personal insights and experiences with what i call
ISHVARA, Lord of this universe, and master of NOTHING. ISHVARA was begotten not made, and issued out from BRAHMAN within the primordial
Intention THOUGHT WAVE which gave birth to this relative universe.
ISHVARA is the motional relative MASTER of this universe. The entire infinity
of this universe is held in the bosom of ISHVARA. BRAHMAN is the ABSOLUTE
in total stillness and perpetual bliss, and ISHVARA is the master of nothing and
the LORD of ALL that moves in this universe. ISHVARA is the SELF that is
associated with the law of KARMA. When full and total realization is obtained
within a human being, and then fully realize that they are NOT the BODY
knowing that they are fully conscious of BEING SELF/BRAHMAN, then
ISHVARA has zero effect on this fully realized SELF. They are no longer human
in the true sense of the word.

tbc blessings michael.

[Unseeking Seeker]

Originally Posted by Michael K

This thread is about my personal insights and experiences with what i call
ISHVARA, Lord of this universe, and master of NOTHING.

Do go on Michael, nothing beats direct personal experience

[Michael K.]

Blessings Unseeking Seeker will post more later today


michael

[Michael K.]

In my fifty years of meditations and the direct experiences I encountered, which have been many. ISHVARA the LORD of this universe and MASTER of
NOTHING, is the most profound experiences and direct insights and immediate
downloads of how universal motioning and the law of motional life, are all under
the direct guidance and control of ISHVARA. It was revealed to me that the
expression mentioned in the BIBLE when the voice of GOD said to MOSES
Tell them that "I AM" sent you. This I AM was ISHVARA AM MANKIND= "I AM"
That spirit that is within all of mankind is that of ISHVARA , a Divine ATOM
located within the heart chakra. Our higher SELF is ISHVARA to a certain point.
The certain point is this, as long as we identify as the body then ISHVARA remains motional within us and still carries KARMIC dealings with us, as soon
as we surrender totally to BRAHMAN and no longer identify as the human vehicle body, ISHVARA BOWS OUT of our aura and the atom in our heart chakra
ascends into BRAHMAN, then we can still carry on as empty vehicles , still being
of service, or we can step out of the vehicle and embrace the ALL within ALL.
Blessings michael.

[Unseeking Seeker]

Originally Posted by Michael K

The certain point is this, as long as we identify as the body then ISHVARA remains motional within us and still carries KARMIC dealings with us, as soon as we surrender totally to BRAHMAN and no longer identify as the human vehicle body, ISHVARA BOWS OUT of our aura and the atom in our heart chakra ascends into BRAHMAN, then we can still carry on as empty vehicles, still being of service, or we can step out of the vehicle and embrace the ALL within ALL.

Ah! ‘we surrender to BRAHMAN’ ~ when all is Brahman, who or what then is the ‘I’ which surrenders to It, without knowing what Brahman represents or is?

The I as an ego-identity (us here now) being but a temporary interface, a mechanism for the Absolute to experience duality fully by entering trance, descends into grosser vibrations. The ego over time recognises the futility of doership in activities related to the world of illusions and so chooses to remain still in the void of cessation. This breaks the state of trance as subject and object, the dreamer and dreamed merge.

So, all along, Brahman or let us say, God or Absolute Self, It alone was the reality. Thus, when we say that ’we continue’, who continues when there is no one here?

Secondly, alright, the Spiritual heart is the centre, the seat of God in form, so to speak, what then would represent ascent into Brahman? What I’m saying is, if we reword this, God is everything, everywhere, all at once and therefore descent is simply entering trance and ascent is simply exiting trance (in the module of individuated ego), wherein whatever appears and disappears in between is but the crystallisation and vaporisation of the illusionary identity.

[Michael K.]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

Ah! ‘we surrender to BRAHMAN’ ~ when all is Brahman, who or what then is the ‘I’ which surrenders to It, without knowing what Brahman represents or is?

The I as an ego-identity (us here now) being but a temporary interface, a mechanism for the Absolute to experience duality fully by entering trance, descends into grosser vibrations. The ego over time recognises the futility of doership in activities related to the world of illusions and so chooses to remain still in the void of cessation. This breaks the state of trance as subject and object, the dreamer and dreamed merge.

So, all along, Brahman or let us say, God or Absolute Self, It alone was the reality. Thus, when we say that ’we continue’, who continues when there is no one here?

Secondly, alright, the Spiritual heart is the centre, the seat of God in form, so to speak, what then would represent ascent into Brahman? What I’m saying is, if we reword this, God is everything, everywhere, all at once and therefore descent is simply entering trance and ascent is simply exiting trance (in the module of individuated ego), wherein whatever appears and disappears in between is but the crystallisation and vaporisation of the illusionary identity.

Blessings Unseeking Seeker,
You have expressed this wonderfully and I agree totally the way you lay it out, Who is there to ascend? There is ONLY BRAHMAN, ought else exists, Which means this whole universe is an illusion as well. I agree with this, but
also try and lay out a relative perspective for looking deeply into the process
of what we call reality.
blessing for your insightful thoughts and words my friend
michael

[Michael K.]

The Higher self that dwells within mankind is that of ISHVARA LORD of the
universe and MASTER of NOTHING. The living PRESENCE that is felt within
millions of human beings is that of ISHVARA. That still small inner voice that
whispers to you in times of crisis, which some call the still small voice of the
soul, is really ISHVARA making us aware of its holy PRESENCE within us.

Humanity consists of eight billion KOSHIC sheaths which relay a presentation
sequence of five KOSHIC dimensional layers of awareness and perception. If
we remove all the KOSHIC sheaths what then is LEFT? The answer is of course
BRAHMAN only. Because ISHVARA will have been resolved back into the ALL.
When all KOSHIC sheaths are removed there is no trace of a human being left
only BRAHMAN. Humanity only "SEEM" to "EXIST" within a limited relative
spectrum of motioning posing as life.

blessings michael

[kralaro]

Hey Michael, you may be able to relate with the 36 tattvas concept:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tattva_(Shaivism)
Chart: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped.../Tattvas36.gif

[Michael K.]

Blessings kralaro for your message I will check it out now,

michael.