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14-07-2021, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Altair
I do not believe there is a single human on this planet that is ''enlightened''. Just people that had a glimpse of what's beyond..
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Perhaps, you are approaching this question the wrong way round. How about believing that all human beings on this planet are ignorant and none ever had a clue about the true nature of reality and what life is all about?
I have damning empirical evidence to prove this. |
15-07-2021, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ayar415
Perhaps, you are approaching this question the wrong way round. How about believing that all human beings on this planet are ignorant and none ever had a clue about the true nature of reality and what life is all about?
I have damning empirical evidence to prove this.
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People are ignorant therefore enlightened Buddhist teachers exist???
That does not follow. |
15-07-2021, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ayar415
Perhaps, you are approaching this question the wrong way round. How about believing that all human beings on this planet are ignorant and none ever had a clue about the true nature of reality and what life is all about?
I have damning empirical evidence to prove this.
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I personally have damning emperical evidence to prove that all people are filled to the brim with knowledge but have been and are distracted from their heritage by invented and repeated false interpretations of what life is.
We are all attuned to what Jung called the collective unconscious but we cannot indulge in this wealth of knowledge due to being constantly misled by all sorts of invented (and accepted) philosophies.
It's understandable that belief systems have arisen but that's all they are. Just beliefs. What we have to attain is a system where knowledge is shared and facts are there to prove what is valid.
For centuries people saw how the sun moved around the Earth and they believed that the Earth was the centre of the universe. It isn't long ago that people thought the Milky Way was the only galaxy - today the guess is that there are two milliarden galaxies - sufficient to tell us that we'll have to change the way we see things.
Believing something won't solve anything.
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The constantly promoted belief (induced by religions) that we are born to be good and obey (in order to enter heaven) is a tragic error in the concept of the universe's plan and an insult to mankind's intellect.
'A clear conscience is the sure sign of a bad memory'
- Mark Twain.
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15-07-2021, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Busby
Believing something won't solve anything.
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That's pretty funny for me, since I live my life based on beliefs  - my Belief System.
And so far so good!!! I must say.
Belief is one of the most powerful forces in the Universe.
I didn't make it so...it just is.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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15-07-2021, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
That's pretty funny for me, since I live my life based on beliefs - my Belief System.
And so far so good!!! I must say.
Belief is one of the most powerful forces in the Universe.
I didn't make it so...it just is. |
Or as they say, "It all begins with a dream." |
15-07-2021, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Busby
For centuries people saw how the sun moved around the Earth and they believed that the Earth was the centre of the universe. It isn't long ago that people thought the Milky Way was the only galaxy - today the guess is that there are two milliarden galaxies - sufficient to tell us that we'll have to change the way we see things.
Believing something won't solve anything.
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Beliefs are all we have. All our knowledge is based on beliefs. We start with a premise (belief), a frame of reference, upon which to built a theory. Then, we devise a method (experiment) to validate (prove) it and establish it as common knowledge.
As such, everything is relative and there are no absolutes. Any reference point - including your big toe - can be the center of the universe. It's true. Make the Earth the center of the universe and enter this into the computer program. It will generate the corresponding cosmos for whatever you want to do with this new configuration.
If I were the Pope, I would authorize this to combat secularism and re-establish a dominant worldview of the universe for the practice of the Christian faith. After all, the Christian (Gregorian) calendar is being used for synchronizing all human activity (including the timing of rocket launches from Earth).
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15-07-2021, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Altair
People are ignorant therefore enlightened Buddhist teachers exist???
That does not follow.
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It will follow if you can put Buddhist teachers on a rack and wring the truth out of them. |
15-07-2021, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ayar415
Or as they say, "It all begins with a dream."
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Yes, or even as a man thinks so he is? a Proverb.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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16-07-2021, 12:10 AM
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What is a man that thinkith not? Is he any less a man?
That's my proverb.
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16-07-2021, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by AbodhiSky
What is a man that thinkith not? Is he any less a man?
That's my proverb.
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A man that thinkith not is a state of the otherness when the mind is still and the self has vanished.
I am just stating what J. Krishnamurti said. Living is dying, he said. |
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