why did jesus do this?

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Can I also answer that for me, too, Mo?
I do not think he was suggesting that he was someone else reincarnated.
Just that he didn't 'put down the very idea' of reincarnation.
My belief, (and belief doesn't mean true), is that it was a very common belief then. ..like a 'given'.

Yes it was probably a given for that time just as it seems to be for now……like an urban legend….everybody believes in it but do not have personal awareness of it…..

[sky]

Originally Posted by Molearner

Sky123,
Are you suggesting that Jesus regarded himself as the reincarnation of someone else ?

No, but He didn't deny Reincarnation.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Molearner

...everybody believes in it but do not have personal awareness of it…..

Hey, who you callin' everybody?
I'm mega aware of especially 3 lifetimes! I'm weird that way --I have been shown them - oh, forgot
and one time suddenly the In-Between place before I came 'here'.
(They were ALL sudden visions - as in, I was dumb struck for hours..well
esp that first one!!!)

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

I'm mega aware of especially 3 lifetimes! I'm weird that way --I have been shown them - oh, forgot
and one time suddenly the In-Between place before I came 'here'.
(They were ALL sudden visions - as in, I was dumb struck for hours..well
esp that first one!!!)

Miss Hepburn,

You have been gifted and am sure that validates it for you……the difficult part is how to interpolate this experience. Do we assume others have this same histories but have no awareness of them ? Or do we think that some people are born as new souls and no burden of past lives ? As I recall you have spoken with admiration of the Padgett messages and Seth. I also remember someone(Neil ?) providing a quotation from those same messages declaring reincarnation being a fraud perpetrated by dark spirits. If reincarnation is actually true for everyone then it would seem logical that we would all share the common roots of the first man.

[Miss Hepburn]

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Originally Posted by Molearner

Miss Hepburn,
You have been gifted and am sure that validates it for you……the difficult part is how to interpolate this experience.
Or do we think that some people are born as new souls and no burden of past lives ?
If reincarnation is actually true for everyone then it would seem logical that we would
all share the common roots of the first man.

Hard to cut down your quote to 3 sentences!

Well, it's not hard for me to interpolate, LOL~!!!
Rob Schwartz has done extensive research on this 'past life thing'
and how it relates to our choices now ---the Path we chose for this life.
And not a rigid path ---there are paths off to the side we
still go down all the time.
No, I don't think people are born 'new'.
Jesus even 'did not comment' on this when asked, Was it his sin or his fathers sin that he was born blind?
Again, not addressing how could a baby have sinned to be born blind.

You wanna explain more this 'common roots from the first man thing'?

Just wanna say - no one has to believe in past lives, as far as I'm concerned.
I sure am not trying to convince anyone!

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

No, I don't think people are born 'new'.
Jesus even 'did not comment' on this when asked, Was it his sin or his fathers sin that he was born blind?
Again, not addressing how could a baby have sinned to be born blind.

You wanna explain more this 'common roots from the first man thing'?

!

Miss Hepburn,

Well Jesus did address this by saying sin was not the cause of this blindness. Secondly in this case it is lineage that is in question. My understanding of those who claim to be reincarnated individuals usually do not experience their past lives as coming from their family lineage….maybe your experience was different ?

The common roots is only logic. At one time the population on earth was very small. If every living being is the reincarnation of a previous earthling ….numbers alone point to common roots…..and you have already indicated that you do not believe in new births. Which makes me wonder……do we enter heaven on a group pass because we are not ‘new’ persons ?

[ThatMan]

He did not rebuke them for saying such strange things... and that is the fascinating thing, He did only say that he was born blind for God's power to be shown in him if I remember correctly.

[sky]

Originally Posted by ThatMan

He did not rebuke them for saying such strange things... and that is the fascinating thing, He did only say that he was born blind for God's power to be shown in him if I remember correctly.

Your correct..

Originally Posted by Molearner

At one time the population on earth was very small.

That's an interesting point. The earths human population is estimated to have been around 300 million in Jesus's time. It is now estimated to be more than 7,800,000,000 or 7.8 billion. That is an increase of around 7,500,000,000 people or 7.5 billion.

So if we have souls, there are 7.5 billion more on earth now than there was at the time of Jesus.

This seems to point to the creation of new souls to me.

Or there was a long waiting list of 7.5 billion souls waiting for a human body to become available?

It's interesting that things like this take time. Why not have 8 billion humans suddenly appear? Why wait for natural population increases over time? Is God dependent on human decisions on if they want to have babies or not in the placement of souls? In determining how many souls to create? So many strange realities and mysteries exist.

[neil]

Originally Posted by Molearner

I also remember someone(Neil ?) providing a quotation from those same messages declaring reincarnation being a fraud perpetrated by dark spirits

Well I am amazed that you have remembered this.
Though the most important moment in your life to remember it, will be as soon as you are liberated from the flesh.
Do your best at that very moment, because at that moment, the deceptive unseen ones will ramp it up.

Below is about Buddha & reincarnation.
https://www.padgettmessages.net/mess.../01/rein7.html

And here is a random spirit speaking about being cleansed, made anew, transforming himself from dark thoughts & unlovingness.
He and many others attest to not needing another life in the flesh to progress in quality of the Soul'self (mind)
https://www.padgettmessages.net/mess...vinelove9.html

And this is jesus speaking of possession & reincarnation.
https://new-birth.net/padgetts-messa...n-vol-2-pg355/