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Old 22-07-2021, 01:21 AM
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Merit is a 'funny thing'.

In the East, you see it all the time, but in the West, it does not seem to of much importance.

What do you mean, BigJohn? What do you mean by "merit"?

Come to think of it, Cobbler could have one meaning for "merit", AbodhiSky another meaning, and me something else. I will go first.

To me, merit means doing something that makes the world a better place. Better to whom? We have been trying to make the world a better place for humanity since WW2 and bombing the hell out of every country we went into.

Bodhiharma could be right.
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Old 22-07-2021, 02:29 AM
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Odd comment......

As for "WE", I haven't been involved in any of things you mentioned.
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Old 22-07-2021, 02:49 AM
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Odd comment......

As for "WE", I haven't been involved in any of things you mentioned.

Involvement in any of the things I mentioned is not a matter of choice unless you are not human.
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Old 22-07-2021, 06:29 AM
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Yes, I obviously do not demean any act born of compassion and empathy, I would just see such as "by-products" of "wisdom". When consciously pursued with any sense of gain then we invite the pharisaic mindset.

Simply quoting myself as it seems that I have been misunderstood. The treacherous sea of language.

Of course all should strive to create a more just human community. As I understand it, "no merit" is all to do with "enlightenment". As always in the Dharma, the "two truths" - and which is being addressed.
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Old 22-07-2021, 07:23 AM
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Bodhidharma: ' Doing things for merit has an impure motive and will only bare the puny fruit of rebirth '
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Old 22-07-2021, 11:29 AM
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Merit Making.

In some Countries you will see 'Merit Making' ( As they call it ) but if you read Buddha's Teachings this is about the 'Self' and not other's, they are seeking merit from their actions rather than giving without expecting a reward. I personally see Merit in Buddha's Teachings as a 'Happening' instead of a 'Doing', spontaneous without thinking I am ' Merit Making' and expecting something in return.
Boddhidarmas quote above says it well imo....
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Old 22-07-2021, 03:32 PM
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Simply quoting myself as it seems that I have been misunderstood. The treacherous sea of language.

Of course all should strive to create a more just human community. As I understand it, "no merit" is all to do with "enlightenment".

Indeed, you have been misunderstood, not on account of language; and I accept the rap on the head for jumping to the wrong conclusion.
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