Why do so many people avoid working on their Lower Chakras?

[Native spirit]

Falling Leaves your input is as important as anybody else's


Namaste

[Redchic12]

NativeS. I would love to hear your own personal take on the Chakras. Only if you are comfortable sharing. Thanks.

[Native spirit]

A lot of people know that there are Energy points on the body but they don't know where they are or take much notice of them,
until they are shown I have always looked at the chakras as a flower bud when you focus on them they open up. that is when you take notice of them.


Namaste

[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by Native spirit

Falling Leaves your input is as important as anybody else's


Namaste

hi native spirit

thank you for the encouragement...

FL

[Bubbles]

@Unseeking Seeker quote We cannot seek to attain, we must become what we seek.

this encapsulates a deeply profound truth that I've often struggled to articulate throughout my life, at least until now. Many times, when attempting to explain this idea, I found myself interrupted before the full picture could be conveyed.. most people, when they desire something, instinctively seek methods to obtain it--> often looking for the quickest path or solution without significant personal change. now, this approach tends to create obstacles and lead to varying results.

BUT what if, instead of merely seeking the method or outcome, one becomes the kind of person for whom the desired result is a natural consequence?????

the concept of "becoming" rather than "attaining" is subtle yet transformative and imo very misunderstood.... it invites a shift in focus from external strategies to internal evolution. for example,,,, if someone seeks financial success, they could change their life in such a way that they naturally embody the traits of: discipline, confidence, vision - needed to achieve it. Or, in another case, if they believe financial success will bring peace of mind, they might find that by cultivating inner peace first, the external need for wealth diminishes or even dissolves.

of course, this notion could be criticized with extreme examples,,, some might argue that simply "becoming" a certain way doesn't guarantee specific outcomes in all situations. however, at its core, this philosophy challenges the typical paradigm of chasing external results.

By shifting our attention to becoming the person aligned with what we seek, we often find that the need to chase fades, as the essence of what we desire becomes part of our being.

And so, imagine chasing a butterfly all day long and unable to catch it, slipping from you on and on and on. And one day, you stop wanting to catch it, and you become as peaceful as the butterfly is, and in your stillness, the butterfly lands on you. this mechanism i see present in so many philosophies. and yet, if you try tell it to people, it would trigger a big defensive mechanism.. it's as if the more you try, the farther it gets from you.

in many ways, this is a form of self-mastery: when we cultivate the internal state that mirrors what we seek, outer success often follows effortlessly. It’s not about abandoning effort but rather redirecting it toward personal transformation, which ultimately leads to a more fulfilling and sustainable achievement of our goals.

many people spend their lives seeking the "perfect partner" to love them, hoping to fill an internal void through external validation. but perhaps if individuals learned to truly love themselves first, the need to demand love from others in various forms would not be as pressing.... when we cultivate self-love, we are no longer dependent on external sources for emotional fulfillment, which often leads to healthier and more balanced relationships.

it applies endlessly, and so, becoming what we seek is key. While we may not always feel like we already possess what we're seeking,,,, whether it’s wealth, success, or peace,,, what we truly seek often comes from within. the phrase 'you are it' implies that the essence of what we desire is already within us, even if it hasn't yet manifested externally. in this sense, the seeker and the sought are one and the same, just as there is no real separation between the observer and the observed. and by embodying the qualities we seek, we create the conditions for those external results to follow.

in doing so, it could be the a great practical way to work on any chakra.

@fairy crystal

I agree, and I also believe that our subconscious is filled with preset programs from childhood and society. we must actively sift through these, deciding what to keep, what to remove, and what to add,,, much like reprogramming software on a computer. if we remain unaware of these ingrained patterns, we could spend our whole lives to 'pee against the wind,' relying on wishful thinking and repeated attempts without making real, consistent progress. even when progress is made, as I have experienced through 'becoming what I seek,' then old programming, patterns, and/or subconscious variables can still derail us. this can manifest as self-sabotage, fear of success or failure, or deeply ingrained beliefs and many more, leading us to keep searching for answers and help in external sources like all sorts of philosophies..

[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by FairyCrystal

You can then be loving, soften, and so on, but deep down in the subconscious the issues, false and painful beliefs still drive you.
Meaning you'd put on a fake persona by softening and being loving and gentle.
You can do all that and deep down still feel sad, hurt, not truly happy and fulfilled. It could and likely would create feelings of guilt (I'm not good enough) and skew your personality because the inner and what you desperately try to be do not match.
And you can't for the love of the Goddess figure out why it doesn't work.

so i tried to answer this the other day but got kinda lost... will try again...

i dunno, i think there is a lot of social pressure for me to think that being driven by false and painful beliefs is somehow bad, or not being 100% 'true' is somehow bad... or even being 'sad' is somehow bad... and I'll admit I caused a lot of this confusion myself so I'm not really gonna be upset that it exists... but a lot of my own 'cleaning' over the last years has been related to Letting myself do many things like this, accepting that that is a part of the path I have to travel. And accepting that others are going to be mean about it, to the extent I let them know what I'm doing... and accepting a lot of other things I would previously have said are 'unacceptable'.

The alternative was still more burying my head in the sand... trying to convince myself that I'm somehow not these things too instead of facing the facts of my own life head-on.

But along the way I've found that a lot of times I don't really like various ways of behaving like this, but it turned out it was really really a good thing that I gave myself the outlet, to allow myself to do what I needed to do despite the social consequences and despite my own ego/pride as well.

[Gem]

I'm a lot with US on this one, in that you work on the underlying whilst the rest is what takes care of itself.

[FallingLeaves]

yeah gem to me an important part of this is to let something 'take care of itself' in my view. Kinda like gardening, I tend the plants and give them love, but a lot of the work is for them in their own time/way.
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there has been some talk, sometimes, about vibrations...

harmonic series is one of the maths that deals with vibrations...

When I learned about harmonic series one of the things that struck me is that for things we care about the overall 'shape' is often defined by what can be described as lower/slower/broader, and what is higher/faster/more precise is kind of an adornment that defines the sharpness/angles of edges and so forth....

so personally if i wanna be spiritual, I'm gonna spend more time where it seems to matter, on the bottom...

not that i have much choice
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i find i can take a lot of words about the physical world and readily translate them into the world of vibrations by the way. For example a 'floor' is the lowest vibration accessible to me, the one that bounds me from below (slower vibrations). a 'roof' is the highest vibration accessible to me, the one that bounds me from above (faster vibrations). when im outdoors, the ground makes kind of a floor and the sky makes kind of a roof so there would be vibrational analogies I suppose....

and the fact of walking into a room would have some sort of meaning in terms of vibrations as well...

a 'window in the sky' would be an 'opening' that allows sensations of higher vibrations than what we are normally allowed...

the 'speed of light' would be the highest vibration allowed in the physical plain... kind of a boundary between here and the next thing whatever that is....

in the quetzlcoatl god's 'footsteps' were measured by the women as 20 days long so, multiply that by two (there is mathematics that says why but you can also realize we are made in god's image so god has two 'feet' so multiply by two lol) and you've suddenly got the magic number '40 days' that shows up for example in the life of Jesus. That may form kind of our floor I dunno....

a footstool is usually lower, closer to the floor than the chair that goes with it or the person sitting on the chair...

since the world is a footstool to god, and the world is bounded by the speed of light, that means god's footstool runs slower than the speed of light.... presumably heaven and then god are at higher 'frequencies/speeds'.

and so on....
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to me, learning about such things is one of several possible roads I can go down, where I start learning about the world around me with 'new eyes' instead of living where adults usually are and assuming I already know all the answers. One of the 'born again' paths....

[Redchic12]

Many thanks NativeS.

I must admit I’ve never taken much notice of them even though I’ve known they are there and read all about them. I’ve always thought of them like….”if it ain’t broken then don’t fix it” kinda attitude. Lol

[Altair]

Nature is all about competition and survival, so any human notions of 'fairness', 'justice' and 'equality' are wholly irrelevant outside of the human realm, and even within it these concepts are malleable and change over time depending on circumstance and agreed-upon values. So I disagree spiritual life entails this or that lifestyle, values or way to be. It simply doesn't matter outside of the human context and outside of individual preferences. Nature is just nature.