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Old 08-10-2024, 08:57 AM
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Why do so many people avoid working on their Lower Chakras?

i've noticed that many people seem more drawn to working with the higher chakras, often overlooking the foundational work needed on the first three. at the same time, when I look at the world, particularly through the lens of capitalism, I see a system that seems to keep people locked within the lower chakras,,, especially the first three. the root chakra remains shaky, as people struggle to meet their basic needs. to cope, we tend to overuse or even abuse the energy of the sacral chakra, seeking pleasure or distraction. And when things start to unravel, we try to fix everything through the solar plexus chakra, focusing on control, ambition, and personal power.

what's interesting is how this dynamic benefits certain elitists/practitioners or secret societies. they seem to deliberately raise their energy only up to the third chakra, blocking it from reaching the heart (Anahata). By doing this, they strengthen their grasp on money and power, but at the cost of compassion and true connection. It’s as if they’ve cut off the energy that could lead to a more balanced, fulfilling existence, all in the name of maintaining control over the material world. i am not advocating of this method.

this disconnection, I believe, explains many of the issues we see in leadership today, where power and profit are prioritized over empathy and collective well-being..... but at what cost? by neglecting the higher chakras, especially the heart, we lose sight of the deeper, more meaningful connections that could lead to a more harmonious society and relationships.

back to the topic, i kinda get it though, the appeal of working with the higher chakras often lies in the pursuit of spiritual experiences, transcendence, and a sense of connection to something greater, especially when life feels so dull with problems we can't fix...it’s exciting and feels like progress toward enlightenment or higher awareness and towards a positive change. however, many struggle to fix a strong root chakra because it requires grounding, dealing with survival needs, and confronting personal fears or insecurities. these are often uncomfortable or seem less glamorous, so people overlook this essential work, leaving them without a solid foundation for growth. without a balanced root, higher chakra work can lack stability and depth.

I think that, for example -> having great ideas vs applying those idea in action, there is a gap between that. the gap between having great ideas and applying those ideas into action is primarily bridged by the solar plexus chakra (Manipura), which governs personal power, confidence, and the ability to execute plans, in combination with the sacral chakra (Svadhisthana), responsible for creativity and drive, and the root chakra (Muladhara), which provides the grounding and stability necessary to turn ideas into practical, tangible reality. now... the chakra most associated with ideas and creativity is actually the third-eye chakra (Ajna - can generate a lot of visionary ideas and potential paths), but without a solid foundation in the lower chakras—especially the root (stability), sacral (creativity and motivation), and solar plexus (personal power and will) then those ideas can feel overwhelming or impossible to manifest. instead of having the strength and resilience to tackle roadblocks one at a time, people might get discouraged by obstacles, as their foundation is too weak to support the execution of their visions. it's like building a tower of ideas on a shaky ground, everything collapses when faced with real-world challenges.
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Old 08-10-2024, 09:30 AM
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The answer is quite simple. Most who set foot on the spiritual path do so because they have issues in life.
Focusing on something else makes those issues seem less powerful. And it feels better than dealing with issues that are often deep seated and painful.
A form of escapism.

Also for some, I think for many actually, it is like a status thing to be able to say they are spiritual, they work with their spirit guides and so on.

And let's face it: few want to do the basic work.
Like when building a house and having to lay the foundation, sewers, cables and so on.
You can't yet see anything of the beautiful house it is to become.
People want to see something, have something to show for, have/see/feel result.
People can't be bothered with the foundation, for whatever reason, which can also be enthusiasm or joyful impatience.

You don't have to wait with the higher chakras by the way. You can do it hand it hand with the lower ones. That way you get result of both.
Plus you can't get higher than you can go deep anyway.

It's as below, so above.
Personally I feel that clarifies more than "as above, so below".
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Old 08-10-2024, 07:47 PM
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i agree with a lot of what fairy crystal said but i have another aspect too...

if I look at them honestly the lower chakras have a lot to say about our animalistic nature. But as a society we've gone far away from that; in most cases all thinking like an animal does gets you labeled as 'impure' or even 'evil'. Unless you are dealing with domesticated cats or dogs that can be easily stomached lol....

So it isn't as good, to deal with lower chakras, when I am interested in communing with other people. As I feel like, others will just steamroll over me if I go for that kind of difference from the 'norm'..... sometimes much nicer to go to the higher realms where vanity gets me further lol... or at least it would be if people didn't steamroll over me there, too... but it doesn't look like others much have that problem so i figure that is why a lot of people will try to deal with upper worlds rather than lower. Sigh.


(part of it is loneliness and part of it is not having anyone to tell me ho to deal with it lol)

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Old 11-10-2024, 01:18 AM
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I think for many actually, it is like a status thing to be able to say they are spiritual, they work with their spirit guides and so on.

And let's face it: few want to do the basic work.


Well said FairyCrystal.

Never underestimate the power of the human ego and human greed to get and to have what is best and most beneficial through the shortest path, least time, and least effort. It is beyond simply impatience.

That is not a criticism of humanity, but rather to highlight how challenging it is for us to evolve spiritually away from our ego towards love. But that is just the way we wanted it with our very long term human adventure of finding ourselves.

Nothing fast tracks our spiritual growth to a more expanded consciousness than having sincere unconditional love in heart and mind. The love energy will take care of cleansing, unblocking, and purifying our chakras and more.

After all, love is the most benevolently powerful and highest vibration multi-dimensional quantum energy and more.

By design, love unlocks many extra-ordinary abilities we all could have that will give us far more control over our health, our life, and our personal reality.

Love is the Universal Truth, the way, and the life.

Then it should be no surprise that all spiritually advance and connected human messengers here throughout the ages uniformly taught people a better way of living life that aligns with love that encompasses benevolence, compassion, and joy.

Love is the key to all our human problems. Hard part is we have free will to choose love or ego.

That should be a big clue as to why a very tiny part of us are here in the physical form pretending to be humans with a self-imposed Veil of Forgetfulness and be given free will to freely choose.

Having equal access to both light and dark energies, what will we choose and how will we behave that some call it a test between high and low consciousness or a test between light and dark energies on this newbie planet.

The big question is, could we eventually uncover the love within each of us that is our true nature, and then express that beautiful love to this young dark world through compassionate action.

Love generates light. And darkness vanishes in the presence of light.

Good to keep that in mind because many on the spiritual path tend to fight the dark instead of generating light.

We are each a powerhouse of light when we are awaken to what we truly are.

All the best!
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Old 10-10-2024, 06:55 AM
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"And it feels better than dealing with issues that are often deep seated and painful. A form of escapism."

Now that I look back at the past 10-15 years of my life, I can see how this makes sense. My Ajna works 'great' and I can create a vision for my life and where I am heading at. In following and living my vision of how I want to live my life, I notice that the ratio of knowing vs applying is not where I want it to be, and so this compells me to nurture the first 3 chakras.

basically, I realize that balancing vision with grounded action is a must for most of the suffering to go away and dreams to turn into reality,, escapism through the upper chakras, like Ajna, can feel empowering, but without nurturing the foundational lower chakras (root, sacral, and solar plexus), this vision often remains unfulfilled.. The path can be seen and perhaps temporarily even feel the destination, but is nothing but a glimpse without the actual work. When we are young, we have to do many mistakes to understand the patterns we repeat, our strengths and weaknesses and so on.. and become a bit 'smarter' in how we deal with ourselves and others.

PS frustration comes / is created when one’s vision is strong but actions are lacking.

I believe that what you have said is valid, so I am not refuting it. and as always, there's so much more to the story. avoiding this work on lower chakras can lead to instability in higher chakras also.

it's just that after so many years i finally start to get a taste for the 'game' of life, it isn't how I thought in the past. so people often avoid discomfort when dealing with the lower chakras because they involve confronting challenging, deep-seated issues related to survival, emotions, and personal power and all that...... For example, just thinking about financial insecurity (root chakra) can bring up anxiety I’ve even avoided checking investments or getting back to work projects because of that feeling, that overwhelming emotion we all know well, you can't even be fully present sometimes..

But so many years of my life I have failed to understand that emotions are actually signals, just like the emotion of regret signals me to Think and make a decision rather than being tormented by it forever in a loop through avoiding it and just feeling it (and is difficult, yes, as it should be). But avoiding these areas just keeps you stuck, making it harder to bring your visions into reality and really grow, which leads me to think that one could get caught up in an endless game of visions adjusting for what the roots cannot do.

I can say one thing, every single time after facing something and crying out deeply about it, something happens, the 'problem' may still be there but I no longer have a blockage that keeps me stuck into fearing it which only feeds it more. I deal with it from a place where I accept it and feeling lighter about it. this emotional release feels like mental alchemy, where desperation and frustration can be transformed into action and progress; and the movie The Pursuit of Happyness from 2006 is a good example.

Focus on how facing discomfort releases blockages, and when there are not as many blockages you can move freely past obstacles. this process lightens the load. facing discomfort -> emotional release frees energy -> this creates room for real progress and to let new energy in your life. same can be about our preconceptions, habits, people etc.

Avoiding discomfort leads to more pain in the long run, it becomes obvious when you finally see it.. I’ve been there too, avoiding discomfort without realizing the long-term effects. I just didn’t understand how this mechanism worked. But now, with recent experiences over the past 2-3 years, a kind of courageous energy has grown within me, allowing me to face discomfort and other challenges head-on.

"You don't have to wait with the higher chakras by the way. You can do it hand it hand with the lower ones. That way you get result of both.
Plus you can't get higher than you can go deep anyway.

It's as below, so above."


Beautiful. It is as if I am willing to talk with the workers from the construction's site at my house and get in the dirt to get things done, but also go and discuss with the designer/architect in a luxurious warm cozy place while having a nice dinner and a good productive chat and vision :)
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Old 11-10-2024, 01:55 AM
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I’d go with what Fairy Crystal has said whilst holding onto my view that instead of doing any practice to focus on a this or that chakra, of which, honestly speaking we know nothing about, other than concepts read here and there, it is optimal to soften attention and gentle touch, moment to moment, in real life as it unfolds, mindfully correcting our responses to be in alignment with love or unity consciousness.

The chakras, kundalini, they take care of themselves.

Ultimately, when the feeling of being separate from source thins out, there is no this vs that, no chakra, no kundalini or we may say, we are the all of it.

This said, yes, we can look at the polarities our choices at each chakra, which correspond to different vibrations. At each chakra, there is an attachment reflection ted as fear and desire. What do we choose? Material or ethereal, lust or love, power or renunciation, good or evil, vanity or humility? These choices which require us to ‘walk the talk’ align us with the vibration we wish to be at as of now.

Always we choose. We cannot seek to attain, we must become what we seek. That, in my view, is the gist of it.
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Old 11-10-2024, 04:46 AM
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I have found in my practice that a sensation of some kind would become strong in an area that people have told me are chakras, and I'd get a bit excited about it because it is apparently special, but then I realised having some feelings seem more important than other feelings was a distraction, so I think a whole body approach is for the best, without preferences for this or aversions toward that.
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Old 12-10-2024, 01:35 PM
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@Unseeking Seeker quote We cannot seek to attain, we must become what we seek.

this encapsulates a deeply profound truth that I've often struggled to articulate throughout my life, at least until now. Many times, when attempting to explain this idea, I found myself interrupted before the full picture could be conveyed.. most people, when they desire something, instinctively seek methods to obtain it--> often looking for the quickest path or solution without significant personal change. now, this approach tends to create obstacles and lead to varying results.

BUT what if, instead of merely seeking the method or outcome, one becomes the kind of person for whom the desired result is a natural consequence?????

the concept of "becoming" rather than "attaining" is subtle yet transformative and imo very misunderstood.... it invites a shift in focus from external strategies to internal evolution. for example,,,, if someone seeks financial success, they could change their life in such a way that they naturally embody the traits of: discipline, confidence, vision - needed to achieve it. Or, in another case, if they believe financial success will bring peace of mind, they might find that by cultivating inner peace first, the external need for wealth diminishes or even dissolves.

of course, this notion could be criticized with extreme examples,,, some might argue that simply "becoming" a certain way doesn't guarantee specific outcomes in all situations. however, at its core, this philosophy challenges the typical paradigm of chasing external results.

By shifting our attention to becoming the person aligned with what we seek, we often find that the need to chase fades, as the essence of what we desire becomes part of our being.

And so, imagine chasing a butterfly all day long and unable to catch it, slipping from you on and on and on. And one day, you stop wanting to catch it, and you become as peaceful as the butterfly is, and in your stillness, the butterfly lands on you. this mechanism i see present in so many philosophies. and yet, if you try tell it to people, it would trigger a big defensive mechanism.. it's as if the more you try, the farther it gets from you.

in many ways, this is a form of self-mastery: when we cultivate the internal state that mirrors what we seek, outer success often follows effortlessly. It’s not about abandoning effort but rather redirecting it toward personal transformation, which ultimately leads to a more fulfilling and sustainable achievement of our goals.

many people spend their lives seeking the "perfect partner" to love them, hoping to fill an internal void through external validation. but perhaps if individuals learned to truly love themselves first, the need to demand love from others in various forms would not be as pressing.... when we cultivate self-love, we are no longer dependent on external sources for emotional fulfillment, which often leads to healthier and more balanced relationships.

it applies endlessly, and so, becoming what we seek is key. While we may not always feel like we already possess what we're seeking,,,, whether it’s wealth, success, or peace,,, what we truly seek often comes from within. the phrase 'you are it' implies that the essence of what we desire is already within us, even if it hasn't yet manifested externally. in this sense, the seeker and the sought are one and the same, just as there is no real separation between the observer and the observed. and by embodying the qualities we seek, we create the conditions for those external results to follow.

in doing so, it could be the a great practical way to work on any chakra.

@fairy crystal

I agree, and I also believe that our subconscious is filled with preset programs from childhood and society. we must actively sift through these, deciding what to keep, what to remove, and what to add,,, much like reprogramming software on a computer. if we remain unaware of these ingrained patterns, we could spend our whole lives to 'pee against the wind,' relying on wishful thinking and repeated attempts without making real, consistent progress. even when progress is made, as I have experienced through 'becoming what I seek,' then old programming, patterns, and/or subconscious variables can still derail us. this can manifest as self-sabotage, fear of success or failure, or deeply ingrained beliefs and many more, leading us to keep searching for answers and help in external sources like all sorts of philosophies..
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I'm a lot with US on this one, in that you work on the underlying whilst the rest is what takes care of itself.
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Old 12-10-2024, 10:46 PM
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yeah gem to me an important part of this is to let something 'take care of itself' in my view. Kinda like gardening, I tend the plants and give them love, but a lot of the work is for them in their own time/way.
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there has been some talk, sometimes, about vibrations...

harmonic series is one of the maths that deals with vibrations...

When I learned about harmonic series one of the things that struck me is that for things we care about the overall 'shape' is often defined by what can be described as lower/slower/broader, and what is higher/faster/more precise is kind of an adornment that defines the sharpness/angles of edges and so forth....

so personally if i wanna be spiritual, I'm gonna spend more time where it seems to matter, on the bottom...

not that i have much choice
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i find i can take a lot of words about the physical world and readily translate them into the world of vibrations by the way. For example a 'floor' is the lowest vibration accessible to me, the one that bounds me from below (slower vibrations). a 'roof' is the highest vibration accessible to me, the one that bounds me from above (faster vibrations). when im outdoors, the ground makes kind of a floor and the sky makes kind of a roof so there would be vibrational analogies I suppose....

and the fact of walking into a room would have some sort of meaning in terms of vibrations as well...

a 'window in the sky' would be an 'opening' that allows sensations of higher vibrations than what we are normally allowed...

the 'speed of light' would be the highest vibration allowed in the physical plain... kind of a boundary between here and the next thing whatever that is....

in the quetzlcoatl god's 'footsteps' were measured by the women as 20 days long so, multiply that by two (there is mathematics that says why but you can also realize we are made in god's image so god has two 'feet' so multiply by two lol) and you've suddenly got the magic number '40 days' that shows up for example in the life of Jesus. That may form kind of our floor I dunno....

a footstool is usually lower, closer to the floor than the chair that goes with it or the person sitting on the chair...

since the world is a footstool to god, and the world is bounded by the speed of light, that means god's footstool runs slower than the speed of light.... presumably heaven and then god are at higher 'frequencies/speeds'.

and so on....
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to me, learning about such things is one of several possible roads I can go down, where I start learning about the world around me with 'new eyes' instead of living where adults usually are and assuming I already know all the answers. One of the 'born again' paths....
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