Intriguing "scientific" study on Mystical Experiences

[inavalan]

Originally Posted by Still_Waters

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At least to me, this seems significantly different than a dream. What explanation can you suggest for this happening?

NOTE: Let's address this point first before discussing the rest of your post. (I'm not ignoring the rest of your post.)

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I don't intend to argue, or convince you or others, so I don't intend to go down the rabbit hole discussing.

To me, all these psychic experiences are versions of the same, dressed up by the experiencer's beliefs (conscious and unconscious). All are projections of awareness (changes of focus): awake-life, dreaming, nde, remote-viewing, death, ...

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by inavalan

I don't intend to argue, or convince you or others, so I don't intend to go down the rabbit hole discussing.

To me, all these psychic experiences are versions of the same, dressed up by the experiencer's beliefs (conscious and unconscious). All are projections of awareness (changes of focus): awake-life, dreaming, nde, remote-viewing, death, ...

Ok. Thank you for sharing.

[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by Busby

It ha long been a conviction of mine that the answers we are all looking for lie dormant in that which we call 'the paranormal'. A seemingly impossible field in which to explore yet one which again and again gives us food for thought.

true enough in my view. But what I think is the seeming impossibility of exploring it is more because we aren't emotionally capable of dealing with what we would find... so it had to be deeply hidden to us by a being or beings more knowledgeable about the realities of 'life' than we are currently capable of. But even so everything to do with physicality is available, to one who decides to seek... dragging everyone else along for the ride may or may not work out though

[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by inavalan

To me, all these psychic experiences are versions of the same, dressed up by the experiencer's beliefs (conscious and unconscious). All are projections of awareness (changes of focus): awake-life, dreaming, nde, remote-viewing, death, ...

there is also a change of focus, where you question whether what people have agreed to call 'reality' is actually itself the dream...

[hazada guess]

This reality is NOT a dream.

Originally Posted by hazada guess

This reality is NOT a dream.

How about reality being the dream of God?

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by hazada guess

This reality is NOT a dream.

Originally Posted by JustASimpleGuy

How about reality being the dream of God?

Terminology can indeed present problems when discussing matters of this nature.

I often say "dream-like" but even that still presents problems to some people. In accordance with the Hermetic "As above, so below" principle, I personally have found the "dream-like" analogy to be particularly helpful in understanding the nature of the Reality. Muktananda and other easterners have often referred to the manifestation as a "play of consciousness".

I was fortunate to have met extraordinary beings who communicated in complete and utter silence... thereby avoiding the obvious difficulties that inadequate words present.

Originally Posted by Still_Waters

Terminology can indeed present problems when discussing matters of this nature.

Yup, language can be a stumbling block if we take analogy as a literal statement of fact. It's just a pointer. How does one go about conveying a foreign concept? By relating it to a familiar concept.

[hazada guess]

You can't feel objects in dreams.

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by JustASimpleGuy

Yup, language can be a stumbling block if we take analogy as a literal statement of fact. It's just a pointer. How does one go about conveying a foreign concept? By relating it to a familiar concept.

EXACTLY !