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Old 20-06-2022, 01:07 PM
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Considerations 137 …

We are all One …

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A popular theme and question in life and certainly on the forum board is … we are all One … suggesting a common fellowship, a common bond, perhaps a common birth of sorts, perhaps one huge Soul made somewhere and then chopped up into little pieces. Whatever the common group binding that is often promoted to foster a kinship or a real bond amongst all of us … which to a point is true … Soul Itself was designed and created as an individual entity.

The concept of “Oneness” came much more from the move to unite all the popular “gods” of the various societies and cultures and worlds into One God … and One Spirit … no matter how we approach the Core Creator God. There have been gods of war … gods of love … gods of hunting, surplus, agriculture, rain gods, gods of protection … just about anything you can name or imagine. Even in today’s multiplicity … we tend to have favored “gods” … of materiality … of money … of well-being and happiness … of mates and relationships, etc.

The various religions add to this “multiplicity of gods.” Every religion seems to have it’s own definition of what and who “God” is … and what IT can do for group or individual. Following out Occam’s Razor … or perhaps considering what would be “First Cause” in all of Existence … nudges one to understand that it all has to begin somewhere … and at the Center … would be a single First Cause … beyond which all else emanates. Few give any recognition to what would be “pure” … and what would be modified … which is the distinction between Pure Divine Spirit and Spirit of the Lower Psychic Worlds.

There is only one “level” from which everything would be “One” … and that is that all is made from the same substance … Divine Spirit. Interestingly enough … we each are intentionally created from this Divine Spirit as an individual Soul … and each develops as It learns to do so. In the Lower Psychic Worlds … we are far from “equal” … as we each come into each individual lifetime carrying our own individualized and highly specialized load of previous beliefs and karmic implications. Most come into each lifetime “directed” to face certain situations and conditions that will lead to a greater balance within the Whole of their existence. Sad as each situation might be … they are “assigned” by higher entities whose duty it is to do just this. How we face these situations spell our success … or our continued lesson in same.

Without a doubt … there is a “commonality” to the Whole of LIFE … a generic quality … where the same “force” or “life energy” applies to all … but again … interpreted individually and specific by each Soul … by design. From this greater picture … w all may carry the same tools in our tool belt … hammers, screwdrivers, tape measures etc. … But how we use these … and if we even keep the close to our individuality … is up to the individual Soul.

Certainly there is a commonality of service to all … eventually … and this we all learn in our own time … but it gets rather sticky when we learn that some people *want* to learn … and others clearly do not. Since there is no way to *make* someone else learn … LIFE is left to give direction and assistance to those that wish to further their understanding of Life. In the end … LIFE IT-self is the greatest … and only … teacher.

Soul Itself is a creature of infinite potential … but that understanding is strongly blurred by the inconsistencies and struggles of the Lower Psychic Worlds … in which we all learn. The features we all must wrestle with here … the mind, emotions, and body … makes the schoolroom one of sensation … and these same features are designed to pull the individual into the maze. LIFE doesn’t care how long it takes for each individual to learn otherwise. LIFE IT-self doesn’t have a governing brain or pre-determined organizing direction for all to follow. This is left to other incredibly lofty entities to direct the specifics. Time softens the karmic load and lessons … and each individual becomes more and more the generic approach of giving all … to all … in service … to all.

As one learns this … there is a question of totally releasing the individuality of Self to generic LIFE … leaving no focus whatsoever on needs or developments of Self. By the time one begins to encounter this dilemma … “needs and developments” have become so generic that the individual is content living within the Whole of LIFE. Turing loose of the material demands and powers of the Lower Psychic Worlds makes this lifestyle much easier. If we are not driven to get more of “this” or a new “that” … the struggles ease … and yet through balance … our “needs” are taken care of to the level of contentment.

The creation of Soul Itself was … and is … for the purpose of the distributor … the regulator … the specifier … the specializer. Once again … Divine Spirit IT-self has no regulating feature … no generic brain to direct IT to be anything specific as IT is a wholly generic Force of LIFE. IT applies to all of Existence. Divine Spirit is the LIFE Force of all Existence … save for the Core Creator God ITSELF. Period. As this Force leaves the Center … various truly Eternal and lofty bodiless entities direct this Force through the absolute necessities needed for the formation of what is below them … or of a lower vibration if you will. On “down” to the actual Fifth Dimension … Sat Lok … other names have been used for the True Home of Soul … this being the first dimension to have any kind of “form” … although there is very little use for it here. Sat Lok is the “equator” between the truly formless and the formed.

Down into the levels of “reconstituted” Spirit … with the addition of the negative element … much like adding salt to fresh water … not changing the overall structure of water but “reconstituting” IT so that the Law of Opposites my be used for the purpose of forming conditions and moving activities from which to learn … Soul enters this playground totally unknowing of just what It is … It’s viewpoint drawn outward now … to begin Its lessons. Each Soul is as distinct to Divine Spirit as a fingerprint … but each fingerprint is still formed from the One Divine Spirit. In this way … and this way only … we … everything … is One. From the moment of each individual created Soul … individuality begins to be recognized from the specific, learned viewpoint of each Soul in existence. Each Soul is individual … not separate … not set apart … not detached … not isolated … but the confusion that comes from being burdened with the bodies of the Lower Psychic Worlds can easily … and does … lead Soul to believe otherwise.

( I’m not going to even mention the oneness / duality / separation / non-dual / unity skirmish. That’s for the intellectuals to dissect / analyze / enjoy. )

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Old 27-06-2022, 01:02 PM
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Considerations 138 …

The Aura …

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I’ve touched on this one lightly elsewhere … but understanding and awareness of this facet of every living thing can help explain many of the questions and much of the confusion on the board.

One way that “man is made in the image of God” is that they both exude an aura. The “aura” of the Core Creator God is … and would be … Divine Spirit … which is the life essence of the Core Creator God IT-self … the life force … generic … applicable to all … emanating out into Existence giving this life force to all … even if it is initially unspecified … or generic.

Each human individual … no matter the state of consciousness … also issues forth an aura … an essence of Self … barely extending beyond Self or extending for a few feet or more beyond the individual according to that individual state of consciousness. This “aura” is magnetic … for lack of a better word … but it does indeed repel … or attract. This aura is built from your own perspective of Life and carries words, thoughts, emotions, beliefs, attitudes, past life implications, etc. This aura obviously belongs to the “unseen worlds” … that which the physical eye cannot see … and therefore is easily disputed by those who wish to do so.

Not only does the physical body emanate an aura … but so do the other inner bodies … the astral and the various levels of the mental body … including memory. All these bodies are not where the facet of emotion or mental activity ( etc ) is actually stored … or kept … that takes place in the respective actual inner body. The essence of these … the summary … the life force that weaves through your understanding of life around you … this is what your aura is.

People can deny this … as they can deny reincarnation or any other basic tenant of life. Each has the freedom to believe or deny … anything. It all depends on personal experience … the determination to learn … and individual development or unfolding. It is more a matter of getting out of our own way rather than incorporating the new.

It is this aura that attracts or repels many facets of what comes into our lives. There is much more to the “unseen” world around us than what we can view via the physical sensations. We are constantly blasted with an unending array of thoughts, imagery, feelings, symbols of all kinds. The air around us is filled with this. We may wish to consider outer space as empty … but it is far from vacant. Thought, feelings, symbols constantly swirl … let alone radio and television waves … flooding everyone everywhere.

The aura clearly attracts like unto like. It can also be protective and repel … according to ability and belief. The thought streams of the traditional teachings … along with most everything else … have been around poetically forever. These streams are so immense … so intricate … it is easy to have thought that are “not our own” … but our interest in similar topics and phrases would bring us into that overall stream where we would pick up such thoughts. Stopping this onslaught is impossible … they willpower in anyway. The way to slow and stop it is a matter of focusing your attention away from receiving them … or interpreting them … for the moment. Perhaps just letting them go through you is a better way to put it. You don’t stop to look at them … you just let them glide by. It takes practice … but certainly can be learned. This does *not* put you anywhere else other than where you already are … it is just shifting the focus away from paying enough attention to them to acknowledge what they are.

One of minds major lines of defense is simple denial. When it cannot understand something … it will label it as illusion or dream-like or unreal or untruth or whatever word the individual wishes to use to sidestep deeper understanding. This is incredibly common. It is better to acknowledge that most all of this do this all the time … some live by it. This is just another phase of learning.

How mental perceptions and understanding end in the entire desire to “stop the mind” and just … float. Mindlessly just sit and stare … admittedly … glorifying in the ability to gain some mental quietude for the moment. We can call this “presence” or “unity” or “pure” or anything we wish. The mind loves to change the definition of a concept or principle so it can somehow belong within its current stance or magnify the importance of a stance in order to belie they are “farther along” than they are. Make no mistake however … taking charge of ones own mind … is a lofty goal. It is a necessary step and each will “get there” … eventually.

This is a long-sought battle to win … and it can be won. After experiencing lifetime after lifetime of doing this … attaining this level time and again for a successive number of lifetimes do we finally realize that there must be more to it than this quietude … since I have returned to learn more … whatever that is. We then move into another level of Self.

But it is the aura that draws or repels … SO much in our lives. To be mystified over … “Hey - * I * didn’t think that thought … “ is akin to standing in the stream from a water hose and wondering why I’m getting wet. If it bothers you … get busy on putting your attention elsewhere and keeping it there long enough to draw other subject material to you or withdraw your attention to slow and dismiss the stream altogether … for as long as it fulfills you. This endeavor is where each individual will uncover just how much our mental thoughts and their respective emotions prevail in our lives … and wish to remain so. Mind almost becomes an opponent to battle due to its preference for habit … but this just makes it worse. Fighting against something is the same as fighting for it … and fighting *against* something can oft times be worse … because the emotions used to feed that which we wish to fight against are more volatile … thus often giving them a bit more power … so to speak. A gentle focusing elsewhere will win the game … eventually … and then on to stopping the mind altogether. It is a necessary tool in the tool belt.

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Considerations 139 …

One Spirit …

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It should be clear to all that there is only One Spirit … in all of Existence. Understanding this would be of benefit to anyone on the overall Path … but the understanding of this has been completely muddied by the teachings of the traditional religions, philosophies, metaphysicians, and priestcraft.

As example … the difference between the pure Divine Spiritual Force and the “amended” or the “moderated” Spirit of the Lower Psychic Worlds would be as different as salt water to fresh … but it is still One Spirit. The addition of salt to fresh water does not alter the water itself but alters its various uses by what would be interacting with it. ( Generic terms will prevail here. This is a bit of an extension from last weeks post. )

Pure Divine Spirit is … and would be … the building blocks of all of Existence … has no form or real distinctive tangible body or entity … no “brain” or “control center” for manipulation into any particular or specific “thing.” It is simply a Force … a Living Force … positive in nature ( if I can use such terms for this ) and is the undifferentiated fuel or sustenance for all of Existence … Itself put into reality by the Core Creator God. At the very point of It being emitted from the Core Creator God … It is a pure Force without direction or manipulation. It is not a Force that is pre-designed to do anything but be the sustaining Force behind all lower Existence. There is no “motion” within it other than the “outward” direction as It is exuded from the Core Creator God. It is positive only in nature … positive being the word that does the best in describing such a Force in the first place. It is “defined” by various states of consciousness as it heads “outward” in a complete 360 degree orbital ball … and again … words fall short in describing this.

Since there is no substance within this singular Force to “design” or “manifest” anything … It simply exists as It is. This is the area where the Lower Psychic World traditions like to refer to it as being “Nothing” … and admittedly … there is no specific “thing” or “form” or “shape” to this pure Force. Within this Pure Force … there is nothing to “be” except to be It as a vast state of consciousness … specified on nothing. There would be no varying experience to be had within It. It is not a Void … since there is consciousness or awareness there.

The prime directive ( if you will ) of Divine Spirit is … growth. It … expands. It nourishes and draws towards a greater awareness of Itself. This would be of a beneficial movement … again … if words like this can be used to describe this … and since there is no negative element within all of Its existence … the growth or expansion or movement would always be beneficial.

That there is only One Divine Spirit gives rise to the partial understanding of “We are all One.” There is no duality to Divine Spirit … no good or bad … right or wrong … It is simply a positive Force of and within Itself. Soul is of this Pure Force … and shares in the tendencies towards “growth” or “expansion” and this often drives Soul onward on Its own path.

The distinction comes when the “schoolroom” of the Lower Psychic Worlds were designed … intentionally … to train Soul to understand what LIFE is all about and Soul’s part in it all. ( I’ve covered much of this in other posts. ) The negative element is brought into play at the “equator” of Existence … that massive upheaval as the positive Force is manipulated and designed into the Lower Psychic Worlds dimensions as are know here. The addition of the negative element allows for active experiences and forms within the Lower Psychic Worlds.

Here is a great way to understand the difference between the various working levels of Spirit. Let’s just use as the example … Divine Spirit is pure, fresh water … and the amendment to Divine Spirit to work in the Lower Psychic Worlds where duality / opposites must be present in order to form various experiences … is the adding of salt to the pure fresh water to make the brine of sea water. The “water” does not change … but the working facets do … changing nothing of the water itself … but making two very distinct elements … so to speak.

Throwing Soul into these Lower Psychic Worlds … in a sense … this is like taking a newborn baby … naked in its exposure … and throwing it outside into the elements without protection. It would die … many times … instantly. So … protection was given the the fledgling Soul in order to survive. We each wear the various “cloaks” or “bodies” or “sheaths” around us as Soul … protecting us from the lowering vibrations or frequencies … the heavier distinctions or variations as we drop from the Etheric to the Mental to the Causal to the Astral and finally to the Physical Planes. It is easy to imagine that without the solidness of the physical body would be a completely different for each and all. The “design of the schoolroom is such that the same could be said of an “emotional body” … or the astral body … is a distinctive interaction on the physical body … and without the familiar emotions … all of existence here would be vastly different. The mental areas of causal, mental, and etheric … memory, patterned thought, and symbolism … offer the same “protection” but allow for each individual within the Lower Psychic Worlds to define / categorize / judge / label / distinguish one experience from another.

This completes the “toolbox” or “facets” of Soul’s experience in the Lower Psychic Worlds. Soul … is the Whole … and “drives” or “interprets” or “manipulates” or distinguishes one experience from another according to Its understanding of how this works and what is around It at the moment.

Soul Itself … is the distributor or regulator of the specifics or specializations … within the generic force of Divine Spirit. Soul learns to do this via the Lower Psychic Worlds first … and then moves into working with or as the Whole … in the Pure God Worlds.

One of the prime reasons I am writing this post is to suggest that … according to Pure Divine Spirit … whose singular essence is of a beneficial, growth, positive one … ( again … if words can be used to portray this ) … then the reason that this does NOT work in the Lower Psychic Worlds is because we have allowed our personal experiences to orchestrate our actions and perceptions of what is going on around us and since we love to focus on problems and fears and poverty and lack of and etc. … the negative element here being stronger than the rather “diluted” positive Force … and we descend into struggles and chaos … all brought on by our LONG-term focus on the outer world of upheaval.

We live in an abundant world … an abundant dimension … an abundant existence. Spirit promotes increase, excess, and growth. If there is “loss” … it is not the “fault” or Spirit. It is the result of your understanding and manifested outer design of what you hold inside. Admittedly … there is no quick fix. It is all a one-step-at-a-time scenario. You learn it now … you learn it later. Habitual patterns coerce you to learn it later because the present is always familiar and is preferred over change. This … is what stifles “free will.” Habits do not promote … “free will.”

But the partial misunderstanding of “We are One” as promoted by those teachings that a collective community, a soft of citizenry where all Soul’s are tied and fixed together … is incorrect. Soul was distinctly made “individually” for a reason … all from the same substance … all from Divine Spirit … but given that internal facet or spark that nudges one towards individuality. Our “relationships” with each other are from past and current lives … and these … are very, very real … but Soul Itself did not come from one huge, giant SOUL and then was chopped up into multiple pieces. We did not come from ONE Soul … but it has often been a major selling pint of many sets of teachings.

Most people are taught … and know only … of Spirit of the Lower Psychic Worlds … inclusive of the negative element … allowing and resulting for phenomenal experience. There is much more to Existence that lies beyond the Lower Psychic Worlds … and is as distinct from IT’s elementary make-up ( if you will ) as salt water is from fresh. Most attempt to include all of Existence within the Lower Psychic Worlds. This is not a mental distinction … but the discovery and awareness by Soul Itself.

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Thanks, Mizz H. This distinction is not widely taught. Most sets of teachings and metaphysicians make the distinction between the “human spirit” and “everything else” … much as they do in distinguishing between the “physical” and the “everything else … spiritual” when discussing the understanding of the Lower Psychic Worlds. There is a vast difference between Divine Spirit and the “modified” Spirit of the Lower Psychic Worlds. To understand this begins to solve and resolve many debatable opinions. I suspect most will dismiss this. Those that do not have little idea how important this is and … hopefully … when they read of this in future lifetimes … they will find this approach a bit more acceptable and build upon it. I will try to build upon all of this in the coming weeks.

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You’re most welcome … HG. Please remember … it takes eyes to see and understand. You are walking the path well.

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Considerations 140A …

Sequence of manifested life …

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This … and future posts … will be in two parts … one Monday and part two on Thursday.

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For those of you who have been following these multiple posts … most will ultimately piece together the sequence of manifested life … certainly that which surrounds us here in the Lower Psychic Worlds … and for the most part … even above and into the Pure God Worlds.

Everything in these Lower Psychic Worlds universes or dimensions or planes has their origin in thought or idea … as promoted or held by an individual or group … and this holding to a focused idea or thought brings about the manifestation of that thought into form. The speed of this manifestation depends on the individual power of the individual or group … or more importantly … the narrowness of focus. More often than not there are many intermediate stages as the “form” is slowly manifested … but in the astral and mental planes … this manifestation cane come about almost instantly … depending on the focus of the individual. The thought and the manifested “thing” is the cause and effect of the sequence.

Clearly and firmly undemanding this sequence lays the entirety of what is in our own personal and individual world within each of us as individuals. Even when other people are drawn into your personal sphere and attempt to influence you to conform to their personal design is done so ups will confront that which brings these people to you in your own belief system. Ultimately … tests will be launched against you wholly to test your strength and courage to hold to … to continue … to maintain no matter what. How else can you develop such levels of determination, strength, resolve, tenacity.

For the most part … we can understand the entire principle by considering the “idea” of a house or building in the mind of an architect … then to the blueprint … then to the gathering of materials and finally to construction. The manifestation of all Lower Psychic Worlds and planes follow same … forming the worlds of matter, energy, space, and time.

This is the general principle most everywhere. This … is consciousness. Each individual develops their own perspective of Life and Existence according to what they hold to and believe in … inwardly. Each individual lifetime develops from this inward perspective.

If one accepts this as true … and eventually it will be to all … it becomes evident that anything can become manifested and brought into our objective, external life only to the point that the initial idea is considered, developed, and formed … in thought. The constant whirling of most peoples minds stifles focusing on anything “new” or “beyond” already-held patterns. Intentional focusing on that which is common and familiar slows the entire process. Constantly focusing on new jobs, relationships, housing, material goodies works for a while … meaning a lifetime or two or three … but eventually Divine Spirit will nudge you beyond. How else will you learn?

Anything and everything within these worlds takes form only to the extent that it is first given accepted existence inwardly through thought via Spirit in one level of Spirit or another … pure … or modified. Few people know … let alone accept … the distinction.

Whether the individual mind rambles, scrambles, dances, whirls … or is focused through individual discipline … thought is our individual word phrasing to what we understand to be true. Thought itself is neither invasive, troublesome, ego, illusionary, or otherwise. Thought that is undisciplined, uncontrolled, habitual, unfocused, spotlighted on the past, or concentrating upon what troubles us or that we do not like … is the downfall.

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