What about the facts?

[Podshell]

I can't post links on the phone but in modern cattle we lost or gained a gene or protein to get more milk produced so makes part of it hard to digest and is mistaken for lactose intolerence-think goat milk and Indian cattle still OK,I used to buy A1 cow milk here but can't get it now.(Can't even recall if it is the A2/A1 now)

[Podshell]

A2 the good one,the important part I just read is that there are proteins that cause similar effects to lactose intolerance-also check the differences for digestion between homogenised v unhomogenised as the latter is supposed to cause problems for people who consume a lot of milk,

[utopiandreamchild]

What about fact?.

Fact is all important and is necessary to progress ones universal education and by all means should most definitely be pursued.
Unfortunately we can't claim fact from fiction here in this forum however I would still advise to seek fact from fiction in you daily affairs outside of the forum.

If you don't have fact then all you have is a bunch of unimportant information and without fact the information is useless.
If you want to progress your education to become one whoms enlightened then fact is a must for educational growth.

Therefore, only seek the fact and naught else and you will get to your enlightened destination faster than by any other means.
Simple, just ask for the evidence to back the factuals and you'll always be making educational progress, it's quite logical isn't it?.

utopiandreamchild

[Altair]

Originally Posted by Podshell

A2 the good one,the important part I just read is that there are proteins that cause similar effects to lactose intolerance-also check the differences for digestion between homogenised v unhomogenised as the latter is supposed to cause problems for people who consume a lot of milk,

That might be interesting, Pod, purely for knowledge' sake, but for me it makes no difference. Milk doesn't just give me digestion issues, but also skin issues. And even if it didn't do that, I quite like to be less dependent upon cows. There are too many cows in this world anyway. https://ourworldindata.org/wild-mammals-birds-biomass

That I get health issues from milk turns out to be a blessing.

[Podshell]

If the problems you suffer are due to the gene or protein then this could be true for many who believe they have a lactose problem,I have no idea how it can be claimed there are too many cows-if some company came along and created a machine that produced a superfood for us that we could make butter,cheese and yoghurt from and we all didn't have to drink black tea ,we would be cheering and want as many as possible in each country.But there's more,we can feed them our waste vegetable matter and get first class manure,no need for wars over fertiliser anymore.So how we keep and treat these miracles is key.What do you think is likely to happen if we carry on with our present consumption rate but whth all the substitute stuff for what cows produce?

[Altair]

35% of mammal biomass is cattle..

There are a few thousand tigers left in the world, and an estimated 40.000-50.000 wild elephants. In my country there aren't even 50 wolves, yet conservatives believe it's the end of the world. Meanwhile, 1,5 billion cows is generally accepted because addiction to beef and dairy. A few groups of wild boar are viewed as a pest, yet stinking polluting death camps with 10K pigs are viewed as economically vital, LOL....

[Podshell]

Thats mad logic,we can live symbiotically with cows,the parasitic farming attempts create problems.Ants can live alongside aphids and farm them,the numbers of both can expand wore or less forever without a problem,but if the naturai farming methods are changed problems arise. (we would have caged the aphids and fed them unnatural foods,aimed for less of them that produced more sugar or meat and when it all went wrong we would get rid of more,cutting off our main food source because we thought we knew better than nature)

[Altair]

Originally Posted by Podshell

Thats mad logic,

Not at all. A cow requires space, water and food. 1.5 billion cows... that's 1.500.000.000 cows, will require a LOT of space, water and food. This comes at the cost of forest, marshland and other wildlife habitat. Wild species have declined, primarily because of livestock farming. And cows are simply the worst of all.

Ants are tiny and not comparable, and thrive in many biomes.

[Podshell]

The amount of space and food is not relevant as they produce manure that feeds the crops,the crops that feed all of us,when we live symbiotially the percieved space problem disappears,neither is size a problem,yes ants are small but trees are big and there are trillions and we realise we need more due to the inbalance we have created,when we want to exterminate the cows we are crucifying the saviours and justifying it,pointing to a target thinking its sacrifice will solve big problems.When will we evert learn?

[Podshell]

So in a natural state,no problems with ants+aphids and population growth,ditto with trees and their partner species,ditto with native Americans and buffalo,ditto with most natural native and wild herd systems.