Who Are You?

God makes a new soul and sends it into a womb of a human being. The baby is born to Mr and Mrs Smith and named Susie. The baby grows up and is brought up as a member of the Religion of the town. The religion is the Lukians named after it's holy founder. The town is on land discovered by Antony and it is known as Antonyland.

One day as an adult, Susie gets caught taking something that was not hers and goes before a judge. The judge asks her, "Who are you?" looking down at his papers. Susie says, "I am a Smith, Susie Smith, and a Lukian and a proud and patriotic Antonylander."

Many years later Susie dies and finds herself standing before God. God asks her, "Who are you?" Susie says "I am a Smith, Susie Smith, and a Lukian and a proud and patriotic Antonylander." God says, none of that is who you are. You are a measure of what you have done. The difference between those you caused suffering in and those you ended suffering in. The difference between those two amounts is either a debt I owe to you if you have done more good than harm, or to a debt you owe me, if you have done more harm than good."

"If I owe a a debt to you, you move forward, to higher realms to collect your reward, if you owe a debt to me, you move lower to lower realms, to pay what you owe."

What our bodies names are, what religion we follow or don't follow, what the area of land we live on is called, does not define who or what we are. We are defined by what we perceive and project, if it's of a higher nature or a lower one.

[Miss Hepburn]

Well, done. I'm proud of you and this... as input on this Forum

[Unseeking Seeker]

Let’s continue this delightful story …

Then Susie asks God, “wherefrom, save from You comes that exalted thought, that inspirations along with it brought? Oh, please say not that heeding conscience, be self-taught, for in myriad maya illusions my tender heart is caught, more oft than not, fear fraught!”

[FairyCrystal]

That story -which to me is incorrect btw- is very religion based, and if I got it right, also includes getting judged after you make your transition.
That doesn't resonate with me either.

You can break free from the roles you play and may have come to think defines who you are while still here on Earth.
Just evolving and learning to tune in to your Higher Self and then your I AM (Monad).
Even in the Pagan song "We all come from the Goddess" you can find such a thing in the words "like a drop of water running to the ocean".
Knowing you are part of a bigger whole, but still an individual even though you're still the same as the others in essence.
Thinking about that can also help to let go of the 3D mundane roles we play.
I suppose what it means is being able to move from 3D thinking/feeling/sensing etc. to 5D. Which is what life is all about, evolving, ascension, moving toward the Age of Aquarius.

As for the judgement... sheer religion. I don't think I've ever come across this in the spiritual nor in Pagan views. Judgement is 2D-3D, not 5D.

[Guillaume]

Originally Posted by FairyCrystal

That story -which to me is incorrect btw- is very religion based, and if I got it right, also includes getting judged after you make your transition.
That doesn't resonate with me either.

I don't think it's incorrect, you're just probably far beyond that judgement.
It doesn't resonate with me, but I can still understand it.
Would you say that more than 50% of the people are 5d already?

[FairyCrystal]

Originally Posted by Guillaume

I don't think it's incorrect, you're just probably far beyond that judgement.
It doesn't resonate with me, but I can still understand it.
Would you say that more than 50% of the people are 5d already?

Errr... I said it is incorrect TO ME!
As for the 5D question... everything and everyone on the planet has shifted to 4D not that long ago. 5D is available & accessible by everyone, but the masses aren't ready for that yet. Sort of like you can put a spark in someone's system so they got it, it's there for them, provided they wake up and let it in and embrace it.
Or a better example maybe: you can lead the horse to water, you cannot make it drink. But the water IS there, readily available. It's just up to the horse to be ready to drink.

People that have already done that are often now in a bit of a limbo as we feel the 5D, think, interact, and do much at that level, yet we still have to live in the lower vibration. Think work, the masses, probably family, school if you have kids, and so on.
So we cannot totally unplug yet as the masses and thus society isn't that far yet. We have to wait and juggle, as we have had to do for years to be honest.
I suppose the expression 'as above so below' is applicable here. We cannot move higher and get to higher ranks on the ascension ladder as the lower ranks are ready for. We cannot simply continue and leave them behind.
That's what the next 11 yrs will be about: more waking up to embrace that spark so that by 2032 we finally can continue with a large number of people. That is the idea, not a mere handful of the world population but as many as possible.

Originally Posted by Guillaume

Would you say that more than 50% of the people are 5d already?

I think that's an arbitrary, fatuous classification, another part of monetarising the new age industry.
Doesn't matter how non-material someone imagines they are up in the rarefied regions, the mundane world doesn't disappear.
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[Guillaume]

Originally Posted by FairyCrystal

As for the 5D question... everything and everyone on the planet has shifted to 4D not that long ago. 5D is available & accessible by everyone, but the masses aren't ready for that yet.

Do you think it's related to the 5G antennas? Sorry for the joke, I'm going to lose everyone!!

I get your point. A few things come to mind: I had read texts from Theosophy (probably Besant) mentioning that many uneducated people had great psychic abilities, but lacked some grounded training. I have in my countryside childhood many memories of people playing with them (contrary to myself the good logical pupil), in a way to justify their reject towards education.
I was also wondering what changed in our modern world with spirituality, what has provoked that shift, but I think the answer is about the standards of living, health, hygiene, and technology is making things a lot better.
I'm also quite sure that there has been times and civilisations that experienced that peak, and then declined.

Originally Posted by Lorelyen

I think that's an arbitrary, fatuous classification, another part of monetarising the new age industry.

No, I'm sad you think this is arbitrary and business-related. There's really something and stages, and it's for free.
Then there's probably many people wanting to make money out of it, but my hope is that this knowledge and/or practices get "normalised" and integrated into the education system.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Lorelyen

... the mundane world doesn't disappear.

The way we perceive it can. 100%

[FairyCrystal]

Originally Posted by Guillaume

.... mentioning that many uneducated people had great psychic abilities, but lacked some grounded training..... in a way to justify their reject towards education.

I don't think not being educated has much to do with rejection of education. Many didn't/ don't have the opportunity due to lack of finances. And in the past it often wasn't deemed necessary either. Proper -and mandatory- school education for all, not just the wealthy, hasn't existed all that long!
And school education has no relevance really to paranormal gifts. If nothing else it might dim that ability, not support it, as education & school get you out of your intuition and into your head. A perfect pawn in / for the patriarchal system.

Originally Posted by Guillaume

I'm also quite sure that there has been times and civilisations that experienced that peak, and then declined.

Never heard of Lemuria? Atlantis? Loads of books have been written about these realms, certainly Atlantis! Even in the 70s we had the series "The Man of Atlantis" with Patrick Duffy.

And after the last fall of Atlantis it still existed in Paganism. The Celts, Ireland, England, Scandivia and so on. All had powerful spirituality and healers, shamans, wise women etc. The same with the Indians, Aboriginals and so on.
There used to be a vast area in current day India with a lot of old wisdom and spirituality. That's also mostly gone, but the essence is still there. Such things are also held in the land.

It all went down the tubes with the rise of religion, Christianity for the most part. Not sure about Islam as I think in certain aspect the Islam is slightly more lenient. But again, not certain about that.

With the Pagans it was mostly a few people who had the ability and that were trained, like priestesses, a High Priestess, druids etc.
People consulted them.
But you of course also had many wise women and men. The ones who could heal with energy, herbal remedies, worked with Spirit, nature Elementals, did astral travel, and so on. Usually living on the outskirts of a village as people feared them, under influence of church who told everyone they were of the devil. But people still consulted them in times of need.
Many of these were later killed during the witch hunt years. A great many. And many of those who were then killed (stoned, hanged, drowned, burnt at the stake, and more of such fun things) were the current Lightworkers.
We have incarnated for many lives here to try and bring the Light, to help mankind recover from the tremendously deep fall after Atlantis. Many of us got persecuted and killed for it though, and as witches experienced these violent deaths.
This is why many Lightworkers now have such an intense fear to stand up and shine their light. Because in past lives they have been condemned for it in very painful traumatic ways and this is still embedded in our cell memories.