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04-07-2021, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick96intent
As a matter of personal interest in the awareness we live by, let's say, I wonder if a special one's forgiveness (towards me for the case) is as important as it gets or can get. ...
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No, it is not important at all, all that matters is, do you forgive yourself and others.
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Rah nam
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04-07-2021, 11:34 AM
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Unforgiveable = not tolerating, not excusing....so yes!
Genocide
Legalised murder i.e. war
Human Rights abuses
....actually this could be a long list!
Personally, although I am open minded/insightful and consider myself to be big hearted, I can't forgive my sister for riding roughshod over our mother's final wishes and also legally contesting her will in what she wanted for myself. Her greed (even though she had the lion's share) destroyed the family unit i.e. she also tried to steal my brother's share too. As it turned out, eventually, she didn't get her way.
She knows I still love her (she's my sister) but I don't recognise the person she's become and have wanted nothing more to do with her. (My brother has also not contacted her since the will situation; she caused us years of stress and heartache and, regrettably, this was whilst our mother was alive to witness this in her final years - everything she didn't want!) It's not that I bear a grudge but the sister I knew no longer exists.
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05-07-2021, 11:38 AM
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Miss Hepburn,
My personal queries and reasearchings somehow - because I brought the subject that concerns my personal part deeper (from this thread) - got answered by Rah nam.
Still, there is a wound I have. But as a matter of justice I don't beleive it's up to me to heal it. Not at the present period of time at least.
Thanks for your concern, but that doesn't say anything really... as spirit has it's ways.
Sometimes these are not so comfortable... but ought they not be ignored.
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05-07-2021, 12:48 PM
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In a perfect world, everything is forgiveable. But this world isn't perfect.
If we were to 100% completely forgive every person there would be no such thing cosunquest people could rape and murder others and it would be ok for them to do so. You could get beat and abused by someone on a daily basis. If you forgive that abuse day after day you set yourself up for a meaningless painful life. In this imperfect world forgiveness isn't always the best option..... In my opinion anyway
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05-07-2021, 01:03 PM
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If we were to 100% completely forgive every person there would be no such thing cosunquest people could rape and murder others and it would be ok ... If you forgive that abuse day after day you set yourself up for a meaningless painful life.
In this imperfect world forgiveness isn't always the best option....
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But, that isn't what forgiveness is about. It isn't saying that murder is 'ok' with no consequences.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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05-07-2021, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by hallow
In a perfect world, everything is forgiveable. But this world isn't perfect.
If we were to 100% completely forgive every person there would be no such thing cosunquest people could rape and murder others and it would be ok for them to do so. ...
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I agree with you.
Not only it's an imperfect world but in many ways extremely unjust ~
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Reason: Shortened quote as Admin has asked to 2-3 sentences
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05-07-2021, 02:34 PM
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I would say that Forgiving is easy unto others and yourself but Forgetting is the hardest part
Namaste
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05-07-2021, 02:36 PM
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''Not forgetting''...being wary is wise! Fool me once ---not again!
''If you need to learn and grow by doing bad behavior ---you won't be doing it to ME anymore!''
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.*I'll text in Navy Blue when I'm speaking as a Mod. :)
Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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05-07-2021, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
''Not forgetting''...being wary is wise! Fool me once ---not again!
''If you need to learn and grow by doing bad behavior ---you won't be doing it to ME anymore!''
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but then that's not forgiveness.
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05-07-2021, 06:19 PM
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The instrument of the body's forgiveness I think is the heart.
There - Is everething unconditional.
P.S. Good drum, drumming there Native spirit
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