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Old 26-01-2011, 12:12 PM
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best subject ever, my opinion, shag your angel|!!! nah jokin jokin, shag your wife fool! she must be ugly if youve chose an invisible being over your wife
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Old 26-01-2011, 01:36 PM
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i guess i just don't understand how anyOne can be an "expert" on angel psychology and behaviors. where does the rules on angel limitations come from? what are the sources for all this exacting knowledge concerning angel thoughts, angel emotions, angel behaviors and angel motivations?

i ask because despite the consistant message provided by the angel experts on this thread our myths often portray angels quite differently. even the Bible has angels finding "the daughters of men" fair.

Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

And those angels in Gen 6:2 were the fallen angels whom God destroyed in the flood of Noah. Any angel that seeks to be sexually intimate with a human being cannot be good. I'm not saying that the Genesis account is literal... but the blueprint is certainly there to show us that any such entites that look to have physical relations with a flesh and blood human being is not a good thing whatsoever.
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Old 26-01-2011, 02:14 PM
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And those angels in Gen 6:2 were the fallen angels whom God destroyed in the flood of Noah. Any angel that seeks to be sexually intimate with a human being cannot be good. I'm not saying that the Genesis account is literal... but the blueprint is certainly there to show us that any such entites that look to have physical relations with a flesh and blood human being is not a good thing whatsoever.


nope. you're wrong. that Bible verse does not refer to fallen angels. the angels are referred to as "sons of God" and their unions with human women resulted in producing "mighty men which were of old, men of renown.", which seems to me to be considered a good thing.


look, let's face it. we're talking about incorporeal beings here and one can hardly cheat on ones wife with an incorporeal being. it's all in ones head, imaginary. one may as well be having sexual fantasies about a rock star or movie goddess. no harm, no foul.
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Old 26-01-2011, 03:36 PM
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Are you sure that it's an angel? You mention that it is a she, but from what I know of angels is they don't have a gender or sexual desires. Unconditional love is probably the only relationship they can have with a human. Also Angel/Human relationships are biblically taboo. In the book of Enoch Angels were banished from heaven because they went down and had children with human women.

Personally, I say keep the feeling but don't invest any time in a romantic relationship with an entity that isn't on the same plane as you.
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Old 26-01-2011, 03:45 PM
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Are you sure that it's an angel? You mention that it is a she, but from what I know of angels is they don't have a gender or sexual desires. Unconditional love is probably the only relationship they can have with a human. Also Angel/Human relationships are biblically taboo. In the book of Enoch Angels were banished from heaven because they went down and had children with human women.

Personally, I say keep the feeling but don't invest any time in a romantic relationship with an entity that isn't on the same plane as you.


Book of Enoch? care to provide chapter and verse? because i can't find a "Book of Enoch" in the Bible.
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Old 26-01-2011, 03:52 PM
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Book of Enoch? care to provide chapter and verse? because i can't find a "Book of Enoch" in the Bible.

It's not from the Christian Bible. It's from the Tanakh, the Jewish Bible.

I'm not claiming to be an expert but I did recall hearing a story that mentioned that Angels were banished for wanting to have sex with human women.

There is no need to be rude.
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Old 26-01-2011, 03:55 PM
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Book of Enoch? care to provide chapter and verse? because i can't find a "Book of Enoch" in the Bible.

Dear friend,

You obviously need to do much research in this area. In the study of angelology or demonology, where the scriptures are concerned.. One cannot just take a verse of scripture and run with it without tracing the matter fully through the rest of the writings.

And since you seem to have no knowledge of the Book of enoch as well, I would say that your information is very much in want.

Not meaning to sound rude, it just that so many spiritual people have ideas that are based on fragments of information... and this can be dangerous in some respects.

These mighty men of renown that the Bible speaks of were the giants in the land, they were violent and wicked. And they were the giants that the Isrealites had to slay in order to gain the promised land. They were the offspring of the nephilim and certainly not considered "a good thing" in the scriptures. And those "sons of God," or nephilim were not considered to be a good thing either.... You certainly need to study this whole subject out in greater detail.
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Old 26-01-2011, 04:02 PM
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Personally I feel this is a bit of a 'dangerous' topic. We are not meant to have 'physical (I don't even think its possible) or romantic' relationships with our guides. They are there to help us and I think that saying that you are in love with your angel indicates that you have a problem.
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Old 26-01-2011, 04:35 PM
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ah! i thought we were referencing the Bible. i can look up "Book of Enoch" and perhaps find those verses that tsk tsks at baddies angels but "bad angels" or no it remains factual that our myths include angels having sexual discourse with mortal humans, so apparently they have genders and sexual proclivities.

well, but have it your way. if you want to believe that having sexual fantasies about an incorporeal imaginary being is somehow "dangerous" then go ahead and live in fear of your imagination. i'm sorry but IMO there aren't any separate entites in the human psyche. angels, demons, gods, goddesses, guides and all are part and parcel of the many complex layers of human consciousness. the fear of "demons" just gives that destructive portion of the psyche identity and credence and disowning ones demons leaves one no power to control and vanquish them. healthy humans WILL have sexual fantasies and IMO having sexual fantasies about a beautiful ethereal being in a higher realm is far better than having sexual fantasies about some nasty perverted porn queen. the OP's angel is likely just filling in the lonely longing places of the OP's psyche. what danger can there be in that? though i suppose if angel experts pile on enough guilt and insert enough fear the OP's angel could be morphed from a beautiful loving angel into an evil deceiving demon so you guys just keep working on that.

but i'm done on this thread. i'll leave you angel experts to your judgment makings. all this moralizing is tedious.
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Old 26-01-2011, 04:47 PM
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Personally I feel this is a bit of a 'dangerous' topic. We are not meant to have 'physical (I don't even think its possible) or romantic' relationships with our guides. They are there to help us and I think that saying that you are in love with your angel indicates that you have a problem.


the only dangerous thing about this topic is that you have (well, HAD) someone participating in the thread who disagrees with the general concensus that the Op is in danger and is somehow immoral due to his angelic fantasies. "spiritual people" don't like to have their dogmas challenged.
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