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Old 15-01-2021, 06:50 PM
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I am at peace with my story of the Calf Pipe keeper.
This is how it was told to me.
Everyone is free to have there own telling of the way they think it is.

The 2 keepers talked of in this thread are free to sort it out.
It does not disrupt anything in me. LOL
Goody-good then ImthatIm.
Because entering the 'injun country' to me is like stepping into a mine-field and I am quite shell-shocked already.


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This IS a beautiful and ever so important Amerind story - Thank you for bringing it up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reoUMEQCd1o

And the seven ceremonies are so valuable to keep.

Info about the pipe (for non-NDNs):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDiPtT4vY-M

From the video:
Pipe as an "energy conductor" for energetic thought-form and he called that an "energy signature"..
Interesting ....

In my culture "the energy conductors" are some specific trees (symbolic of the World Pole), but of course a Shaman no longer needs to do these symbolic acts.
"The Spirit Horse" that came and took the shaman-to-be-person to-the-other-side during the "Shamanic-Death-Experience" and also brought him/her back into the body - now is the energy between the Earth & Sky carrying the prayers. (What Tibetans call the "Windhorse" and Mongolians "Hiimori" - the now 'extra soul of the Shaman').

But the expression "Walks like a living prayer" should be clear enough - no?
Either understood by these symbolic acts or as an already existent "energy signature" of a holy person.
What the Sage intends .... manifests ...

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ImthatIm, do you think the Thunder Dreamers are not going extinct, but are actually integrated in society and therefore go unnoticed? Except for the antidotal stories?

I wonder if he grew up on the reservation if elders could help him understand his gifts better? The world is lacking in a way to help you people “know” themselves and embrace their uniqueness.

When He was 10, he had us check out Navajo Language tapes from the library.

He is such an old soul.

His gifts/Spirit will pull or lure him into the right path for him.
I do not think Thunder dreamers are extinct.
He can perfect his gifts as much as He is willing to be open to and commit to them.
He will have His whole lifetime to perfect them or not.
It will be His choice, and it will all depend on His level of commitment.
His interests will probably lead Him as time goes on.

Most tribes have some sort of Thunder society or clans.
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Goody-good then ImthatIm.
Because entering the 'injun country' to me is like stepping into a mine-field and I am quite shell-shocked already.


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5PBwDDvTV...i_reindeer.jpg

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This IS a beautiful and ever so important Amerind story - Thank you for bringing it up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reoUMEQCd1o

And the seven ceremonies are so valuable to keep.

Info about the pipe (for non-NDNs):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDiPtT4vY-M

From the video:
Pipe as an "energy conductor" for energetic thought-form and he called that an "energy signature"..
Interesting ....

In my culture "the energy conductors" are some specific trees (symbolic of the World Pole), but of course a Shaman no longer needs to do these symbolic acts.
"The Spirit Horse" that came and took the shaman-to-be-person to-the-other-side during the "Shamanic-Death-Experience" and also brought him/her back into the body - now is the energy between the Earth & Sky carrying the prayers. (What Tibetans call the "Windhorse" and Mongolians "Hiimori" - the now 'extra soul of the Shaman').

But the expression "Walks like a living prayer" should be clear enough - no?
Either understood by these symbolic acts or as an already existent "energy signature" of a holy person.
What the Sage intends .... manifests ...

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Nice little vid. on the White Buffalo Calf Maiden.
Also your 2nd vid. is excellent. I Love 'Not a Medicine Mans' practical teachings.
Yes, there is ritual and then there is beyond ritual.
I could also say the Pipe represent me. To be a Hollow Bone. Yes?

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But the expression "Walks like a living prayer" should be clear enough - no?
Yes.

Computer finally crashed so I have to clank out words on a old slow laptop.
So I may also be slow, in my responses.
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