Originally Posted by ImthatIm
I am at peace with my story of the Calf Pipe keeper.
This is how it was told to me.
Everyone is free to have there own telling of the way they think it is.
The 2 keepers talked of in this thread are free to sort it out.
It does not disrupt anything in me. LOL
Goody-good then ImthatIm
Because entering the 'injun country' to me is like stepping into a mine-field and I am quite shell-shocked already.
a beautiful and ever so important Amerind story - Thank you for bringing it up:
And the seven ceremonies are so valuable to keep.
Info about the pipe (for non-NDNs):
From the video:
Pipe as an "energy conductor"
for energetic thought-form and he called that an "energy signature"..
In my culture "the energy conductors" are some specific trees (symbolic of the World Pole), but of course a Shaman no longer needs to do these symbolic acts.
"The Spirit Horse"
that came and took the shaman-to-be-person to-the-other-side
during the "Shamanic-Death-Experience"
and also brought him/her back into the body - now is the energy between the Earth & Sky carrying the prayers. (What Tibetans call the "Windhorse" and Mongolians "Hiimori" - the now 'extra soul of the Shaman').
But the expression "Walks like a living prayer"
should be clear enough - no?
Either understood by these symbolic acts or as an already existent "energy signature" of a holy person.
What the Sage intends .... manifests ...