Documented cases of children with memories of a past life - Reincarnation?

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by pixiedust

Thank you very much - very grateful for the information Perhaps I should pay more attention to my dreams.

I personally have found paying attention to dreams to be very revealing.
The Sufi master Rumi has explicitly stated that the world is but a dream.

[pixiedust]

Indeed it probably is.

[Miss Hepburn]

www.uvadops.org
The Univ of Virginia has done 60 yrs of research into memories of past lives.
Names - Jim Tucker and Ian Stevenson are imp.
2500 cases
You can take it from there!!

*Dept of Perceptual Studies

[PastPilot]

Verifiable is tough as the prerequisite is quite hard to achieve by scientific methods and even then it is disputed. Many lifetimes children and adults remember were quite mundane, without much reference to anything specific. 95% of people live ordinary lives. You may know you lived in Egyptian times, or medieval times, but that is not of much help. Knowing a village name, or the name of a king or district ruler is also not verifiable. You may have heard the name or read it somewhere.

I have read in many sources that a child may have past lives, or even between lives, memories but these fade from their conscious memories by the age of 6 or 7. In most cases, the child will not have any memories. In my case, I had no memories as a child until I was around 9 years of age and then I started getting memories from various past lives. However, none of that would be considered verifiable to anyone other than myself.

I have memories of a specific period of history where I lived with princes and future kings. When I bought a recently published book on that very specific period of history I remembered from a past life I was stunned to read what I had experienced. I had a front-row seat with the movers and shakers of that event. I took orders directly, and personally, from the man who would be king. Even the thoughts of the various participants were written down and I can definitely say, the book was 100% accurate even going so far as to describe the slaughter at the end of the event. But that will always remain only verifiable to me, no one else.

Dr. Ian Stevenson wrote the best verifiable accounts of children and reincarnation where he interviewed hundreds of children who remembered their past lives. Despite giving scientific proof, as Dr. Stevenson was a scientist, his results are still disputed. You will never get undisputed proof unless everyone has had such memories and even then religion and politics will filter these memories away.

My take is that only a handful of souls choose to remember. The rest do not want such influences in their lives. It is free will.

Originally Posted by Still_Waters

Dr. Bruce Greyson, Professor Emeritus in the Department of Psychiatry, at the University of Virginia, has done significant research into a phenomenon called "post mortem survival". Others call this phenomenon "past live recall/memories".

Regardless of the name given to this phenomenon, it is manifested in young children just starting to speak where the child has a VERIFIABLE memory of a past life and may even have birthmarks and phobias consistent with the manner of death in that remembered life. There are literally hundreds of such cases that are well documented, and I have heard Dr. Greyson's successor speak on this subject in a real-time zoom meeting earlier this year....

[Still_Waters]

QUOTE 66 EXCERPT:

Originally Posted by PastPilot

Verifiable is tough as the prerequisite is quite hard to achieve by scientific methods and even then it is disputed. Many lifetimes children and adults remember were quite mundane, without much reference to anything specific.

Dr. Ian Stevenson wrote the best verifiable accounts of children and reincarnation where he interviewed hundreds of children who remembered their past lives. Despite giving scientific proof, as Dr. Stevenson was a scientist, his results are still disputed.

My take is that only a handful of souls choose to remember. The rest do not want such influences in their lives. It is free will.

You raise three excellent points in your post.

1. Many of the lifetimes that are remembered by children and adults are indeed "mundane", as you duly noted. However, in an online lecture (given by a University of Virginia representative via IONS) that I attended this year, it was stated that the average time lapse between the physical death of the remembered personage and the birth of the one who remembers ... is 4 1/2 years. This indicates that many of the people who knew the remembered ones were still alive at the time of the study in which case details of even the most mundane lives can be verified if there are sufficient identifying details. That has indeed been the case in many of these cases.

2. I agree with you that "Dr. Ian Stevenson wrote the best verifiable accounts" of such remembrances and, despite his very scientific approach, many remain skeptical. Here is the link to a YouTube video for a very specific case among many which was particularly convincing for me personally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JrSi7rWWpM

3. You wrote that "My take is that only a handful of souls choose to remember." My understanding of these cases is that the majority of them had such a violent or untimely death that the trauma was so great that the person's consciousness was so indelibly marked that it was virtually impossible to forget that memory as in the case mentioned above whose link I have provided. I can't rule out most people wanting to forget such lives but these more traumatic lives might not have been easily forgettable. Even birthmarks and phobias seem related to that remembered life.

In any case, thank you for sharing your very thoughtful comments.

[PastPilot]

Originally Posted by Still_Waters

QUOTE 66 EXCERPT: You raise three excellent points in your post.

1. Many of the lifetimes that are remembered by children and adults are indeed "mundane", as you duly noted. However, in an online lecture (given by a University of Virginia representative via IONS) that I attended this year, it was stated that the average time lapse between the physical death of the remembered personage and the birth of the one who remembers ... is 4 1/2 years. This indicates that many of the people who knew the remembered ones were still alive at the time of the study in which case details of even the most mundane lives can be verified if there are sufficient identifying details. That has indeed been the case in many of these cases.

I have read that 4.5 years from death to rebirth has become the modern norm. Prior to the 1800s, it was a longer period between death and rebirth. Some people point to there being far more available vessels to reincarnate into as the reason why the time is only 4.5 years right now. Helen Wambach mentions this in her book about reincarnation.

We all have memories of most of our lives but many choose to not remember during their life on Earth. The memories are there but not consciously remembered. By mundane lives, I meant fairly simple lives without much trauma. With the exception of my present life, I have had a string of traumatic lives over the last 160 years. This may very well be why I remember these lives but I have also had interesting lives that date over 1000 years ago. In the last 200 years, far more civilians have been killed in wars than in previous time periods, with many of these lives having been killed quickly and violently. I haven't spoken with many people who suffer from nightmares or have unusual fears. This may just be that people won't talk about it or just don't have such issues. That doesn't mean, however, that such trauma did not occur. They may have just chosen not to have to deal with it at this moment in time.

2. I agree with you that "Dr. Ian Stevenson wrote the best verifiable accounts" of such remembrances and, despite his very scientific approach, many remain skeptical. Here is the link to a YouTube video for a very specific case among many which was particularly convincing for me personally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JrSi7rWWpM

I was on another site where people discussed how they go about researching past lives, psychic phenomena, etc. At some point, someone put up a poll to see how people conducted their research. On that poll list were "books" and "Talking with other people". Both of these scored near zero. I was shocked. People don't read books nor talk with others to find out what other people experienced? That was the reason why books were first invented, to share information. The reason? People did not want to be influenced by others. I learned a huge amount about reincarnation by reading well over 300 books on the subject since I was old e nough to read and I learn a lot talking with psychics and others who have also had similar experiences as me. It doesn't surprise me that many people never heard of Dr. Ian Steenson.

3. You wrote that "My take is that only a handful of souls choose to remember." My understanding of these cases is that the majority of them had such a violent or untimely death that the trauma was so great that the person's consciousness was so indelibly marked that it was virtually impossible to forget that memory as in the case mentioned above whose link I have provided. I can't rule out most people wanting to forget such lives but these more traumatic lives might not have been easily forgettable. Even birthmarks and phobias seem related to that remembered life.

Most people do not remember. Having nightmares about drowning need not be a memory but just a trigger. People may not realize that these nightmares are past memories or trauma that won't go away. I have a slight fear of water but I have never had a memory telling me why, although instinctively I do know I downed at some point that caused this fear. Many people are in this same situation. They have no memories of such deaths or traumatic events but may have a fear of something. I have only run into a very small number of people who have actual memories they can recall. The others may suspect but are only going on gut feelings. This probably represents less than 1% of people I have known in my life where reincarnation came up in conversation. Most simply dismiss such fear as nothing.[/quote]

[QUOTEIn any case, thank you for sharing your very thoughtful comments. [/quote]

There many things I am still researching. One day I will try past life regression again although it has only been successful in a minor way.

[Native spirit]

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Namaste

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by PastPilot

I learned a huge amount about reincarnation by reading well over 300 books on the subject since I was old e nough to read and I learn a lot talking with psychics and others who have also had similar experiences as me.

I read your entire post with great interest but am only quoting a small portion of it in accordance with posting guidance on this site.

The poll results that you mentioned were very surprising to me. While I consider direct experiences to be very important, I do read a lot and talk to others about their experiences as there is only so much that one can experience directly. Whenever possible, I validate what I read or hear as best as possible. I too am amazed that investigators of Truth don't read more and listen to others more ..... and "weigh and measure" what they discover in that manner. That is actually a SHOCKING poll result (from my perspective).

[Guillaume]

Originally Posted by PastPilot

I have read that 4.5 years from death to rebirth has become the modern norm. Prior to the 1800s, it was a longer period between death and rebirth.

I think these 4.5 years have more to do with the age that the new baby can speak rather than the delay from death to rebirth.

[Guillaume]

To detail more: it's not because the soul remembers things that it can activate the muscles of the new body to express the things it remembers.

And on that matter, are there reported cases of children speaking another language than their parents' (with genuine fluency) ? That would be great.

Anyways, I have an explanation for some children: the parents have asked God to have a child that would prove them reincarnation is a thing! And the magic happened!