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25-05-2021, 02:53 PM
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Master
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Originally Posted by Greenslade
There's a lot more to it than just the mind at play but the mind is certainly a part of it. And turning the ego into the bad guy and identifying with the self instead is a personality aberration or mental health issue based on dissociation.
Spirituality is the "What?" and psychology is the "How?"
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Yes, both spirituality and psychology deal with the individual Self, not the collective/group of Selfs. However they try to get the Self to join the collective/group of Self's.
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25-05-2021, 08:02 PM
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Master
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Originally Posted by Greenslade
Science has found that schizophrenia and Spirituality come from the same areas of the brain, and it has also been mooted that we have a 'God gene', that people are pre-disposed to Spirituality because of genetics. And as has already been said, there are no states of consciousness only states of mind.
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I do not share your faith in the findings of science, which still has much to learn.
And whatever may have been said, states of consciousness and states of mind are very different. But we will never agree on this subject.
Peace
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25-05-2021, 10:00 PM
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Knower
Join Date: Mar 2021
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Originally Posted by iamthat
I do not share your faith in the findings of science, which still has much to learn.
And whatever may have been said, states of consciousness and states of mind are very different. But we will never agree on this subject. Peace
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Oh, c'mon you guys. Work it out. You've got Eternity. :-)
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26-05-2021, 01:11 PM
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Master
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schizophrenia and Spirituality
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Originally Posted by Greenslade
Science has found that schizophrenia and Spirituality come from the same areas of the brain, and it has also been mooted that we have a 'God gene', that people are pre-disposed to Spirituality because of genetics. And as has already been said, there are no states of consciousness only states of mind.
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This u have repeated in many times to imply spiritual people as schizophrenic. Closeness in brain in no way determines they are same . Many things remain close but are diametrically opposite . e.g. Oxygen (which sustains fire ) and hydrogen (inflammable itself ) coming close and form water particle which douses fire ! . So closeness in brain area to derive / imply some conclusion is incorrect and invalid in science which u seems to so proud.
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26-05-2021, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by HITESH SHAH
This u have repeated in many times to imply spiritual people as schizophrenic. Closeness in brain in no way determines they are same . Many things remain close but are diametrically opposite . e.g. Oxygen (which sustains fire ) and hydrogen (inflammable itself ) coming close and form water particle which douses fire ! . So closeness in brain area to derive / imply some conclusion is incorrect and invalid in science which u seems to so proud.
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I highly doubt Greenslade is implying or making a generalization that spiritual people are schizophrenic.
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26-05-2021, 03:54 PM
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spiritual schizophrenic
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Originally Posted by MikeS80
I highly doubt Greenslade is implying or making a generalization that spiritual people are schizophrenic.
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Hi MikeS80,
Thanks for clarification and appreciate your response .
I will be the most happy person if he really does not mean that. I have read this quite a few times in his post about spirituality and schizophrenia originating in same part of the brain . I really could not deduce any other meaning . But as I said I am very happy to be wrong if spirituality and schizophrenia are not implied to have any inherent connection . The connection if any at best can be random / erratic.
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26-05-2021, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by HITESH SHAH
....Closeness in brain in no way determines they are same.
Many things remain close but are diametrically opposite...
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I agree with this. Just sayin'.
Not that Greenslade was implying that.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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27-05-2021, 06:27 AM
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Master
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interpretation
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
Not that Greenslade was implying that.
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Thanks Miss H for clarifying it . I am very happy to be wrong in matters like this .If Greenslade feels hurt with my comments I can express my regrets for the same. I have no qualms accepting my mistake to him if he agrees to all your assessments .
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28-05-2021, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeS80
Yes, both spirituality and psychology deal with the individual Self, not the collective/group of Selfs. However they try to get the Self to join the collective/group of Self's.
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It's all about symbiotic relationships, internally the ego and the self are in a relationship while the the individual and the group are also in a symbiotic relationship. The group dynamics is determined by the interaction of collective selves.
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28-05-2021, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by iamthat
I do not share your faith in the findings of science, which still has much to learn.
And whatever may have been said, states of consciousness and states of mind are very different. But we will never agree on this subject.
Peace
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The good thing about science is that it's not based an just any old belief.
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